No banjo bolt screens on the turbo on your 2010 forester but they still retain them on the other banjo bolts on the car.

 

This is the same reason why I'm getting rid of my 2005 LGT! Good to know that the 2010 XT has no banjo filter.

 

I would pay a mechanic $100 to remove the screen, and keep your awesome car.

 

If you think there is no screened banjo bolt in the 2010 XT, I don' think that's correct. We just bought a 2010 and it's definitely there. I can see it plain as day. The SubaruPartsGirl also confirmed that it's the one with the integrated filter, and she's sending me a new one.

But good luck getting access to it. I just started another thread on the question of access.

I think maybe nobody is talking about it because they think Subaru stopped putting the screens in, but the are DEFINITELY STILL THERE!

 

Subaru's TSB SB-02-03-09 says the filter is STILL THERE on the 2009 and 2010. I don't know why people are saying it's not there.

Ours is a 2010 and it's got the screen.

Either I'm wrong about this, or there is BAD information being circulated out there that Subaru stopped using the screens. They didn't. Ours is a 2010 and it has the screen.

 

My 2009 didn't have any screens

 

Nor my 2009

 

I think there is something different going on here though because my banjo bolt didn't have a screen

 

There is def no screen in the oil feed for the turbo. There are screens in all the other banjo bolts just not the turbo anymore.

 

Nor my 2011 they still retain them on the other banjo bolts but the turbo has no screens.

 

None on my 09 turbo line either.

 

Only thing you can see from the outside is a copper crush washer under the bolt. No oil screen on the turbo's banjo bolt. Avcs bolts still have them.

Zenon this is specificaly about the oil feed for the turbo not the cyl head/avcs ones. Those still have the screen. The turbo doesnt. Weve all had our turbos off umpteen times and switched them around with bogger ones and there isn't one there.

 

Ok, gentlemen. I'm going to pull mine regardless and report back. As I said in the other thread, I only got this from the TSB. Maybe it's wrong?!

 

That tsb is showing you the bolt for you intake avcs not the turbo. The one for the turbo is shown directly on the turbo it self. The b bolt is for your intake avcs line on your head since you only have single avcs.

 

That diagram is for the entire oil supply line feeding multiple items. The first several bolts farthest from the turbo ate the supplies for other places on the head. The turbo banjo bolt sits litterally on/inside the turbo not away from it.

 

Yes, there is a banjo bolt that attaches literally to the top of the turbo. But that's not the one with the screen in it.

 

The bolt you circled is this bolt. Not the turbo bolt.

Or its the one you see on the top of the head a little ways back.

 

Ok, I've perhaps unwisely been talking about the same thing on 2 different threads. Not sure what to do about it. I think I'll cut and paste the same answer.

The TSB SB-02-03-09 is specifically talking about Turbo failures. The bolts and the feed lines in the photos are specifically the turbo supply lines.

Super - your pic has the oil feed banjo bolt, with the protrusion/nipple thingy (the indicator that it's a filter/screen bolt I believe) in a RED box.

Then you show an orange box, which must be the union to the AVCS. That is NOT the one I'm talking about.

In 2009, on the Forester, as shown in the TSB, Subaru has MOVED the Turbo banjo fitting to the top of the cylinder head. The one in the red box is the OLD LOCATION at the back of the head.

The union/coupling at the end of your red arrow goes to the turbo itself.

I've attached some more circles - this time light blue.

So going backwards from the Turbo, you have the union screw/banjo bolt that bolts directly to the turbo (no protrusion on the head of the bolt). Then you have the coupling (not a banjo-style fitting anyways). Then you have the infamous banjo bolt with the screen in it.

The one bolted to the cylinder head HAS a protrusion.

Maybe you guys can vote on whether you have removed/checked on any bolts that have the protrusion, on the oil lines leading to your turbo (aka the one bolted to the top of the head on the passenger side).

I will take a photo when my wife gets back with the car. It's clearly a bolt WITH the protrusion, on the line that feeds the turbo. Hence I'm inclined to think that it DOES have the screen. And that's what Subaru and the guys at the LegacyGT forum are saying (for LGT MY 2007-2009). But it's a pig to get to.

It's just below the coupling that attaches the Intake Duct to the turbo (the duct that runs from your air cleaner and then under the Intake Manifold, then has a big clamp on it). But let me check on that & get you a photo.

I can see it with a flashlight plain as day, sitting on the top of the cylinder head.

And the guys on the LEGACY forum talk about the NEW location, and how it STILL has the screen in it.

I'm getting a sinking feeling.

The good news is that one post on the Legacy forum offers some advice for getting at the new location (under the intake manifold). And without removing either the turbo or the intake manifold. But it still seems to be a pig.

He says:

"3 clamps to remove.

Intake clamp
Bpv clamp
Turbo clamp

Then remove rubber beather hoses

Allen bolt atop the inlet


Should pull out.

You'll find a bango screen on the oil line going towards the acvs

It's tight. ( twss) "

Banjo Bolt Screen DIY 07+ - Subaru Legacy Forums

 

Ok, I've perhaps unwisely been talking about the same thing on 2 different threads. Not sure what to do about it. I think I'll cut and paste the same answer.

I've moved the posts from the other thread here and deleted the duplicates. Keep it in this thread from now on, please.

 

..and sadly the LGT forum post is a little too light in terms of descriptive instructions for me. And it may be slightly different on the Legacy cars, although opposed forces seems to show the same setup as the Foz. I was hoping for a photographic walk-through, like for the OLD location of the bolt.

I get what the intake clamp is. That's the one directly in the way of a straight shot at the banjo bolt with a socket extension.

But I'm not sure what "turbo clamp" is. Nor "BPV clamp". I'm new to turbos.

If he means bypass valve, isn't that on the driver's side of the intercooler? Why would one need to remove that?

Argggh. I'll post a pic. Stay tuned.

 

Here's what I think the Legacy guy is talking about. If I could just get that intake duct to move a little towards the front of the car, then I may have a shot at the banjo bolt. And it might be a 20 min job.

Real pic of the car is still coming...

 

Thats what weve been saying all along though. None on the turbo but still on the heads.

We didnt deny the fact that the screens were on some of the head oil supplies just the turbo one. The other thread specifically asked if there was one on the turbo feed line.

Definitely sounds like a case of multiple, different yet similar, thread topics confusion.

 

The bottom line for these questions is: "is there an inline filter that is potentially clogged up and will starve my turbo of oil"? Isn't that the point? That was the OP's question. Aren't we trying to protect the turbo from oil starvation? At least that's what I'm worried about. And the responders to this thread have repeatedly said "there is no filter in the oil lines to the turbo". Which seems to be factually incorrect. The oil comes out of the top of the passenger side cylinder head, and passes through a screen. Then it goes towards the back of the car and supplies the turbo. It ALSO goes to the front of the car and supplies the valve timing system. But the point is that THERE IS A SCREEN BETWEEN YOUR TURBO AND THE SOURCE OF THE OIL. On 2009 and 2010 Foresters, it's in location "B" in the TSB.

So let me completely back-track and start again...

On the 2009 and 2010 (and possibly newer) Forester XT, is there a screen/filter that is part of a banjo bolt that supplies oil to the turbo? Is it possible that this screen is clogging up? How can I pull it out and replace or inspect it?

It seems that the answer is YES, there is a bolt screwed into the top of the cylinder head that filters/screens oil on its way to the turbo. So YES, there is a chance that it's become/becoming blocked, and should be checked. YES, it may be starving your turbo.

Next question: where exactly is the bolt, and how does one access it?

See photos

If anyone has pulled this bolt for a 2009 or 2010 FXT, while the engine was still in the car, please let me know. How did you do it? Did you remove either the turbo or the intake manifold? Or did you get to it by moving the intake duct over enough so you could get a straight shot at it with a socket entension? How long did it take you?

 

Well my motor is pulled and on a stand so tomorrow i will go and remove the banjo bolt on the head that goes to the turbo and double check but since i have already had this off while stripping my motor i am still pretty positive that it does not have any screen. I am pretty sure the only one that sis was my avcs line but i will tell you tomorrow. While a am at it i will be removing the screen on the avcs while i am in there as well as i never did for some reason. Also mine is a 2011 and that tsb says 2009 to 2010 so it may be pointless anyway.

 

Yep. Sorry. I'm a phone user and typing suffers.

 

I agree there may be one from the block I didn't really check that one great when I was searching for my leaking oil bolt. However direct feed to the turbo does not have a screen and as far as my Subaru mechanic is concerned there should be no filter/screen anywhere on the oil feed line.

(However he has said a few other goofy things to so....I take it with a grain of salt)

I look forward to Nates discoveries

 

Quick - Nate has a 2011, so his discoveries may not be relevant to your 2009.

Secondly, I don't seem to be getting the message across very well here. Sure, the banjo bolt on the turbo itself doesn't have a screen. But upstream of that oil supply is ANOTHER bolt that DOES seem to have the screen. Who cares where it is in the chain? The fact is that it's there, and it's a concern.

Again, I don't get how this thread has gotten bogged down in the semantics of which bolt is which. If there's a screen in the way of the oil supply, it's a concern.

If you're in Ottawa, contact your dealer and reference the TSB I showed earlier (it's actually a Canadian TSB). It specifically refutes the idea that "they stopped putting the filters in".

I'll go one step further. I also have the Factory Service Manual, and even it specifically states that there is a filter in the union bolt that feeds the TURBO. See attached. They say you should check it for clogging. The FSM is for a 2010 XT.

I'm hoping top get at mine later today. Although I don't have a great feeling about my chances, given how deeply buried it is.

 

I looked at the Factory Service Manual for the 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 FXT (of course the 2014 is now the 2.0 Turbo).

The 2011 through 2013 manual have the exact same write-up on the oil piping with the filter/screen as I've posted above. So if the FSM is accurate, then they never stopped using the screens on the TURBO oil line on the Foresters.

The 2014 manual has no mention of screens in the oil piping section.

I've also included a little more of the TSB, with some text that describes how the piping with the screen is specific to the turbo. Maybe this will help clarify. Keep in mind the TSB is dated 24 August 2009, so there is no way it would include later model years. But that doesn't necessarily mean they removed the screen from later model years.

I'm droning on and on about this because we just bought this FXT, and I've been going through the list of all the stuff to maintain, as well as any problem areas. And in doing my original research (including using this site), I was led to believe that the screen thing was not an issue on my model year. So I was going to ignore it. But it kept bugging me that such a small thing could potentially blow up the whole engine. So I kept pursuing it.

Again, maybe the TSB and the FSM are both wrong all the way up to 2013. I never got to removing it yesterday. I'll definitely update when I do pull it.

 

Yes yes yes. We get the point that at some point in the line there may be a screen. I am simply stating what I personally have seen and heard from my mechanic. I am not stating you are wrong or anything of the sort. Sorry I will no longer comment on your thread now that you are potentially butt hurt.

Take care

 

Sorry motor is in the car now forgot about the banjo bolt so nothing to report on my end but as you said i have a 2011 so it may not even pertain to yours.