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2012 - Problem after changing radiator - overheating? - SOLVED!

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#1 · (Edited)
Hey guys.

I have a 2012 Forester XT Touring, automatic transmission.

I’ve replaced the radiator due to the original ones plastic tank on top separated from the aluminum core.

Got everything hooked up and put in new coolant. Burping/bleeding it for over an hour and no heat. Bottom radiator hose stays cold, and top hose gets hot. Engine temp gauge in the dash stays in the middle, but if I drive it (only on my street up and down) the temp starts climbing to the red, but still no heat.
Does it sound like it still has air in the system, or the thermostat needs replacing? (Should have replaced the thermostat too, I know.)

Thanks in advance!
 
#3 ·
Thank you!

Nothings frozen, if you mean frozen from the weather, then definitely not. It’s been in the 50’s ferinhieght all week. I had it on ramps trying to bleed the system, even parking it up hill, since my driveway has a decent incline. And no luck.
 
#5 ·
No funnel, I made a huge mess :/ Fans are working. The new radiator is a Denso I ordered from RockAuto.com I read on another forum, that a closed thermostat could split the radiator, the plastic tank from the aluminum core. Thats how my radiator broke. I'm really hoping its just air locked, I don't want to have to waste all the new coolant changing the thermostat. That stuff was EXPENSIVE! And it was pre-mixed, and got 2 gallons. So I paid 28 dollars for one gallon of water! That crap is a scam. when I worked at a parts store years ago, I always had people buy the straight coolant, not the pre-mixed one. Why pay for something that has half water in it, when you can buy a gallon of straight coolant, and you can make 2 gallons of pre-mixed coolant from it!
 
#9 ·
If you re use the coolant, make sure it’s free of any particles. You can even filter it. I agree, too expensive.

The Subaru super coolant used to be sold as a concentrate that water could be added to, in different ratios.
See: YT video by Mr Subaru on coolant replacement. Letting the car sit overnight? Not necessary.
 
#15 ·
Quick question Fozzy XT. When you replaced the thermostat did you get a significant amount of extra coolant to come out of the engine block? I want to change as much as I can. The service manual shows nothing about an engine coolant drain plug. Just says to drain from the rad but that I suspect only lets about 4 Litres out. Does nobody use a coolant flush, or even just repeated drains and fill with just distilled water, and then calculate the amount of concentrate to use? It seems strange to me there is nothing about this in the service manual. Also assuming I have the front end of the vehicle raised when removing the thermostat, should I lower it back to level to get more coolant out, and then afterward jack up the front end to fill and bleed the air?

And FYI for anyone, Prestone now sells premix blue coolant for Acura, Honda, Nissan, Infiniti and Subaru, and it is on sale presently at Wal-Mart for 1/2 price or $14.47 Cdn a jug. I can also buy a similar private OEM label coolant in either concentrate or pre-mix at Canadian Tire. I have no concerns about using either
 
#16 ·
When I popped off the thermostat, I’d say about a gallon of coolant came out. I had my Forester on ramps when I did it. After everything was buttoned up I poured maybe a gallon and a half back into the system. Checked the level the next day before driving it, and didn’t have to add anymore.
Bleeding it was quick this time! I still had it on the ramps when I did the bleeding, and it took no time for it to get sorted out. Pretty much filled it, let it get to temp, and filled till I couldn’t fill no more. Drove it right after, no problems.
 
#19 ·
Well, I bought the thermostat from the dealer so hopefully, the weather is good enough tomorrow to do the job. Was thinking of being cheap and not replacing the existing one which is working fine, but I may as well do a good job.
Part number 21210AA181 includes the gasket-- 45.97 Cdn and I note its made in Japan.
 
#21 ·
Well I haven't changed the rad yet as it has somehow stopped leaking and I am not losing any coolant. The weather is still too cool for me to want to leap at the job.
When I was looking under the car today, I took a look at the thermostat location and it has me wondering --do I need to undo the exhaust manifold and drop the exhaust to remove it? Or is there enough room to get at it and change it without doing so? I have a 2011 with the FB25 engine.
 
#25 ·
FYI I have been looking at the service manual for my model with the FB25 engine and you do need to drop the front exhaust-- argh... For fun, I also looked for the XT and you don't need to with yours. Sadly one of the bolts on mine is simply not accessible, and even if it were I don't think there is room to remove the thermostat cover to swap out the thermostat. Why did they have to make such a simple part so inaccessible?
 
#27 ·
Just means I will live with the one in place until the sad day comes when I need to have the engine pulled to reseal it. Not sure when that might be, but it is weeping a bit of oil on the driver's side, and possibly the timing chain cover. Not really losing much coolant despite the telltale blue staining on top of the rad where the plastic meets the aluminum. However, that is dry. Still, the plan is to replace the rad next week and to change the coolant and transmission fluid.
 
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