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2009 - How old is this timing belt?

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Bought an 09 NA Forester 2.5x with roughly 85k miles on it. The thing had a head gasket replaced sometime before I bought it. No records, no stickers inside the hood, in the owners manual, etc. I wondered about the condition of the timing belt since the mantra seems to be age (105 months = 8.75 years) or miles (105k).

If it's original I would expect more worn, but it would be past age. If not original.... shrug that's what I'd like to guess at.

I just checked and the writing on the belt is pretty clear and the ridges are solid all the way around, but I'm not entirely sure how to judge this.

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Would love to get some opinions more expert than mine.
 
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@Hidalgo88 that link you posted doesn't work for me?

It's usually one of the "other" associated parts that causes the timing belt to fail. I've read many posts that said the timing belt looked like new when it was replaced. At that many miles & that many years, you might consider having the timing belt maintenance performed... for insurance against a seriously damaged engine.

With the above said, I tend to go with miles (wear) over months (time), but that's a risk & one I'm willing to take. Neither of our Forester has had this maintenance done yet, as the mileage (wear) is very low.

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#8 ·
Wait. It mainly the time (in miles) of running where heat deteriorates the lubricant and belt material. You can take a sealed bearing and if you rotate by hand every couple of days it will lt will outlive you.
 
#10 ·
+1 with GusV -
You really can't tell wear on the belt from looking at it, unless it is quite literally falling apart.
The way it looks has more to do with its operating conditions (dusty/dirty) than the mileage it has, or has left in it.
A belt is similar in construction to a tire, with a rubber exterior for flexibility and molded in components for strength.
The reason that belts (and tires) fail is because the rubber oxidizes and becomes brittle.
A 10 year old tire may look good, with lots of tread, but it has lost most of it's adhesion qualities and should be replaced.
The belt also has a limited life, but the recommended mileage/age recommendation has some safety factor included.
If the pulleys to which it is connected fail, obviously the belt won't like that at all.
The rest of the rotating items may also look fine, but considering the royal PITA of replacement, it's worth doing if you plan on keeping the car.
Belt replacement isn't cheap, due to the labor cost, but it beats buying a replacement engine if it fails.
 
#11 ·
Well, if this is the original belt, then it's good to 100K ...you got 15k to go.
When you do get the belt changed?
Replace the water pump and all the idler and tension pulleys ...this is common practice to circumvent Murphy's Law which says 6 months after you replace the timing belt and don't change out those things ...one or more of them will fail. And you will pay darn near the same labor charge you did when you replaced just the belt. The parts are relatively inexpensive for the timing belt swap; it's all labor. Many timing belts come as a "kit" that includes the idlers, tensioner, water pump and belt. Dealer probably will do it piecemeal but an indie shop may opt for a kit.
 
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As others have said, you want to make sure they use good quality parts, replace everything and not just the worn bits - water pump, thermostat (while they’re there) hydraulic tensioner, 3 other tensioners, two camshaft seals and front crankshaft seal. You don’t want oil leaks. New coolant. The Subaru coolant is long life but should be replaced plus the ‘additive’ to help the head gaskets last longer. Reason being you’ve no idea of the history. I did this job on my 2008 SH forester x (no history either) and replaced everything - the belt was probably ok, the hydraulic tensioner, water pump and seals were very good, but the other tensioners were on the way out. I don’t want to revisit it for a long time so I changed everything...
 
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