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2020 - Followed jump start directions - sparks when connecting ground? - Updated!

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First problem is that the battery was dead on a 6 month old car. I followed the manual to the letter on how to jump and when I try to connect the negative ground (to the strut mount, per the manual) sparks fly.

I have jumped many a car in my life and never experienced this. Because it is a new vehicle, I figured I should follow the manual instructions.

Does this seem right? What should I do?
 
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Jumping from a running vehicle : Exactly ! (#1) When either Vehicle is running, the rotating Alternator can be totally destroyed if anything goes wrong ! That is usually $100 (min.) to as much as $500 and that would be before $-Labor ! (#2) If either end is hooked up as reversed polarity, there is a monstrous current surge capability ! (#3) If there is a "dead-short" anywhere in your hook-up on/in either vehicle, the resulting Current-Surge will fall somewhere between the two extremes noted for #1 and #3. Proper : Throw Jumper Cables on ground stretching them from vehicle to vehicle to assure proper length ... with out either vehicle physically touching the other. Hook up first Positive cable clamp onto dead battery Positive Terminal first, keeping Negative totally isolated from everything (laying on Mother Earth Ground - not touching anything conductive); hook up second Positive Cable Clamp to Good-Battery Positive-Terminal second (leaving Negative cable lying on Mother Earth Ground - not touching anything conductive); next pick up First Negative Cable Clamp from Mother Earth Ground and connect it to Dead-Battery Negative Battery Terminal ; and finally , pick up last Negative Cable Clamp from Mother Earth Ground and slightly tap or slap the metal part to the bad battery Negative Battery Terminal: if any sparks are visible ( somewhat normal) , they should not cause any metal pitting or burning, and should only be an fraction or so of an inch long. Any result greater than this means that something is really wrong !
If huge sparks, then start by assuming a dead short somewhere on the faulty vehicle, and that could be :1) Battery; 2) Alternator; 3) Heavy Current Carrying Wiring (Alt, Bat, Fuse-Block, Relay-Panel, etc.). Go from there ! Good Luck !
 
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@mlestaats welcome to the forum from Oregon!

Was the jump start successful? If so, yes, normal & the reason why the instructions say not to connect the ground at the battery.

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Booster car was not running. Husband jumped it later connecting postive(dead) to positive(booster), negative(booster) to negative(dead)* with booster car running. He said there was a little spark. It took a while but the Forester finally started.

(*this is different from what I did. I followed the Subaru manual which had the final negative connection/grounding at the strut mount. This sparked a lot, so I didn't complete the connection.)

Re: Battery Drain - I think this mystery is solved because my husband remembered turning on the rear hatch roof light last Thursday night (!) This could explain the lack of a voltage reading with a voltage meter. We'll see how it is tomorrow. I drove it around for 30 minutes.

Thank you, everyone!
 
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Re: Battery Drain - I think this mystery is solved because my husband remembered turning on the rear hatch roof light last Thursday night (!) This could explain the lack of a voltage reading with a voltage meter. We'll see how it is tomorrow. I drove it around for 30 minutes.
I wouldn't count on the alternator fully charging the battery by driving around. Although your car may start OK it is best to have your battery fully recharged with an external battery charger.

If you do a forum search you will see where there are many complaints about dead batteries on 2019+ Foresters. One way to minimize battery drain from accidentally leaving an inside light on is to replace any incandescent bulbs with LED bulbs. Another way to drain a battery on a 2019+ is by leaving the tailgate open even with the cargo area light turned off.

When it comes time to replace your battery don't replace with an identical Subaru battery. Instead buy a more robust battery such as an AGM type.
 
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@mlestaats the reason for the last connection to be made to the frame, aways from the battery, is to prevent the battery from exploding. A conventional wet battery expels, vents hydrogen gas in its normal operation.

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