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Thanks again!,
By the way, do you know how you open lower steering column cover and lower left dash panel?
I can't find it at Youtube.
I would appreciate if you have any photo or link that you can share.

Have a good weekend!
 
I have just figured out removing lower steering column cover,
but no luck with lower left dash panel. Any body has any idea?
I found one screw to open lower right corner so unscrewed it
but there is no screw to open on left or center side...

I will appreciate any advice
 

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Now I am stuck with fuse box. Would you please share with me how to drop fuse box after removing lower panel?
I removed 3 screws but it won't come out because of lots of harness inside.
Did you remove airbag cover which is kind of in the way?
 
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I removed all harness/connectors from the front/visible side of the fuse box. I think there were a couple large connectors and a couple smaller connectors. Once I did that the fuse box was able to drop down out of the way pretty easily. I didn't remove any airbag cover.


I had some time yesterday so I gave Fortin a call to ask about the remote shutdown and security system. It turns out with the USA Subaru models the EVO-ONE cannot monitor the lock/unlock signal while the vehicle is running. So there is no way for the EVO-ONE to know if you are doing the 3X Lock while the vehicle is running...i.e. you can't do a remote shutdown of the vehicle. I was told this isn't an issue with Canada models.

This also explains the security system. When I had the security system armed and vehicle running, I wasn't able to disarm the system because the EVO couldn't see my unlock signal. So unfortunately if you have a USA model you won't be able to use the security system with the OEM remote (at least when remote starting). Again, this isn't an issue with Canadian models.

My conversation with Fortin was specifically about my 2016 Forester, but I imagine it would be the same across other Subaru models listed on the installation guide. I didn't ask.

All of the above issues can be solved with the addition of an aftermarket remote. Kind of a bummer I can't remote shutdown the vehicle but then again I've never really used that feature on my other vehicle with remote start. It really shouldn't be an issue. And because I originally bought the system for remote starting, I'm not too disappointed I can't use the security system. Though I might do the aftermarket remotes in the future to take full advantage of the security system. Or perhaps Fortin will have a new firmware update in the future...

I would still recommend the EVO-ONE to someone looking for remote start with their OEM key. I would at least recommend buying the t-harness from Fortin and using it with whatever system you install (e.g. Viper), unless there are other t-harnesses out there now. For ~$35 I think it's worth it to get something that easily connects to the vehicle ignition harness, then you just cut off the EVO-ONE plug and easily splice in whatever system you're using. Tapping into larger gauge wires is a pain, especially soldering. There are other non-soldering ways to tap into the wires but I would be cautious, especially with cheap solutions. I would feel most comfortable using Posi-taps. They are expensive but probably provide the best connection. Only downside is they'll make your ignition harness bulky.

Yesterday I did install the EVO-ONE with rf kit in a 2004 Chevy Silverado 1500. Went smoothly and everything works as expected. Wiring is much easier to access in an older truck!
 
Sorry to be late in reply...
I completely finished all installation with new firmware link updater (previous one was a defect)
With new firmware link updater that I bought set up everything that I liked including decrypt part.

Yes, I agree with your recommendation. This EVO one is pretty easy to install as long as instruction is followed thoroughly.
My one issue is, though, T harness is not completely fit in steering wheel box....
it is a bit too big and space in the steering wheel is a bit small for harness....
so I had to tape outside, which looks ugly..

How did you fit T harness completely?
 
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I didn't have any problems fitting the t-harness under the steering column cover, if that's what you mean. It takes a bit of effort to get the connectors positioned in the right spot but I don't recall it being very difficult. I didn't take any pictures of that unfortunately. I may have used some zip ties as well to hold everything tight...I can't remember exactly. Consider using some zip ties if you think it'll help hold things tight.
 
I just tried a few times, but it still doesn't fit....
if you don't mind, would you take off steering column cover and
show me how harness sits with a photo, when you have a chance?
 
Wow, that looks complicated AF. I had my Viper system installed, best $300 ever spent especially after the cold weather we've been having here in the NE.
I must say though, the three times lock button to start is nice, I have a small remote for that. On the downside, I have ocd when it comes to locking the car and press the lock button until I hear the honk once so I would've probably started the car each time I got out... LOL


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Did you get the Viper system with the cell phone type remote or do they have a small fop remote. Just saw a video and looks like a much more complicated system than what Id like. There is a local installer not too far from me they offer 1 way and 2 way.
 
Did you get the Viper system with the cell phone type remote or do they have a small fop remote. Just saw a video and looks like a much more complicated system than what Id like. There is a local installer not too far from me they offer 1 way and 2 way.


Just the remote. When I called Viper, they told me the cell phone app based model is no longer available because they've been having issues with it...


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Vehicle: 2016 Forester 2.5i Premium, Standard Key, No Factory Alarm
After programming the EVO-ONE and setting my options, I was able to test it out. The one downside is that you can't program the EVO-ONE with the computer while it is connected to the vehicle. I had to remove it a few times and go back to the computer to get my options correct before I got it working, so I did this all before I organized all my wiring and mounted the module. But, it didn't take long before I had the remote start working correctly. Simply press the LOCK on the OEM fob 3 times in a row and she starts right up. Unlock, open the door (vehicle remains running), insert the key and turn to start and you're ready to go. If you kit the brake pedal before inserting the key the engine shuts off.

I took my time with the install and probably spent 4-5 hours making all the connections and messing around with the programming, then another hour or so to tie up the wires and put the car back together. If I did it all over again it would probably take half the time or less. Even though the instructions are great I was still overly cautious about making the correct connections...last thing I wanted to do was fry something.

It has been working great and I am happy with the result. One thing I did notice is that I can't shut the car off remotely after starting it. I did read that I should be able to do the 3X LOCK again and it would shut off, but it wouldn't work for me. I need to call Fortin to see what they say. Its not really a big deal though. Also, I would like to take advantage of the security system but I wasn't able to get it to work with the OEM fob...I think it might only be possible with an aftermarket remote system. I'll have to ask Fortin about that as well.

Speaking of an aftermarket remote, you can hook up an various aftermarket RF kits to the EVO-ONE. This opens up more functionality. For example, there are auxiliary outputs on the EVO-ONE that you can use for various functions. I read that the rear defrost on the Forester is not controlled on the vehicle's CAN-bus, so you could use the aux output to turn the rear defrost on. The security system is another thing that, like I said above, you can take advantage of with an RF kit. Also, this opens up a lot of options for remotes, such as two-way remotes with super long range.
Were you able to make it work fully with the OEM remote? I read somewhere that for Foresters that were not built in Canada, you have to buy the optional RF kit. I would like to confirm that before I order.
 
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Were you able to make it work fully with the OEM remote? I read somewhere that for Foresters that were not built in Canada, you have to buy the optional RF kit. I would like to confirm that before I order.
Yes, I was able to make it work with the OEM remote for a Forester built in US; however, there are a couple functions that aren't possible with the OEM remote and US model. Looks like I outlined those in my post #25. Basically, once you remote start the car, you cannot do a remote shutdown with the remote. And you cannot use the built in EVO security system.

It's been almost a year with the EVO-ONE kit in our Forster and I've been happy with it. No issues so far. And no problems not being able to do a remote shutdown...I don't recall a time when I've started it and wanted to shut it down remotely. As long as you're not button-happy when locking the car (pressing it 3X or more to ensure you've locked it) you don't have to worry about it starting accidentally.

It's been a while since I've installed it but if you have any questions I'll do my best to help.
 
Hi JstLuise,

Thanks for your quick reply. Will the car beep (horm) to confirm that I locked it? That's one of the options that I want. Also, will the car auto-lock after I start using it? For instance, I start it, get inside, start driving and then after a while (perhaps when I press the brakes or after a couple of minutes or driven by tachometer) then it automatically locks the doors?

My Forester does not have those features and I that is the main reason I'm researching for aftermarket solutions.

When you say that the security features will not work with the OEM remote, do you mean the horn "panic" when someone opens the door and the car is locked, ignition cut, etc.?
 
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Hi JstLuise,

Thanks for your quick reply. Will the car beep (horm) to confirm that I locked it? That's one of the options that I want. Also, will the car auto-lock after I start using it? For instance, I start it, get inside, start driving and then after a while (perhaps when I press the brakes or after a couple of minutes or driven by tachometer) then it automatically locks the doors?

My Forester does not have those features and I that is the main reason I'm researching for aftermarket solutions.

When you say that the security features will not work with the OEM remote, do you mean the horn "panic" when someone opens the door and the car is locked, ignition cut, etc.?
My Forester already had the beep on lock feature, so I didn't bother experimenting anything else. From taking a quick look in the manual, it looks like there may be a setting under section 11 (Siren/horn confirmation chirp and led programming), either setting 11.2 (lock/unlock sound always) or 11.5 (horn lock only). You'll have to play around with those to see if you get the functionality you want. One of these should work, since I think it just activates A7 that is connected directly to your horn (instead of going through the CAN-BUS).

As for the auto-lock, I see a setting under section 7 (safety locks), 7.2 (lock after foot-brake & unlock after key is turned off). Seems like this will lock the doors as soon as your press the brake for the first time. This will only work when you first remote start the vehicle, and then press the brake after inserting the key. If you get in the car without remote starting, the doors will not lock on the brake press (at least that is my understanding). I didn't see any other settings for auto locking.

For the security features, IIRC the issue was just disarming the system after remote starting. When the EVO-ONE security system is armed and you remote start the vehicle, the EVO-ONE can no longer monitor lock/unlock commands (with the US built version and OEM fob) so there is no way to disarm the EVO-ONE alarm. This is the same reason why you can't remote shutdown (EVO-ONE can't see your 3X press when the car is running).

The security features relating to the remote start are separate and still work without the EVO-ONE security system enabled. The car will shut down if the brake is pressed without the key is inserted.

What year and model of Forester do you have?
 
What year and model of Forester do you have?
Mine is a Forester 2018 made in Japan. I'm in Panama, Central America. My car is a 2.0 non-Turbo. It is very plain basic... I can't find any setting for the features I want to have and the car dealer says that my car does not have them, which sounds weird to me. To me those are very basic features.
 
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Mine is a Forester 2018 made in Japan. I'm in Panama, Central America. My car is a 2.0 non-Turbo. It is very plain basic... I can't find any setting for the features I want to have and the car dealer says that my car does not have them, which sounds weird to me. To me those are very basic features.
It does seem weird. I'm sure someone with more knowledge of the various models/trim packages would be able to explain it.

I'm pretty confident that the horn on lock/unlock will work, just because it is wired directly to the horn output. The auto-lock feature I'm not so sure of.

You can always get the EVO-ONE unit and experiment. If things don't work like you expect with the OEM remote, then you can could get an aftermarket remote. This would allow you to communicate directly with the EVO-ONE unit and will allow you to use features that weren't available with the OEM remote (such as the security system). You also get better range with the aftermarket remotes...the short range with the OEM remote is one thing I noticed but it hasn't bothered me (though I may need some new batteries in the fob).

Alternatively, there might be another solution out there, perhaps from Viper. But, even then, you'll likely be using an aftermarket remote.
 
The weirdest thing is that the car has a setting called Security Relocking, which I set to 30 seconds. And it does NOTHING.

The thing is that in order to use the third party remotes with the EVO, I have to order the RF Module. And being in Panama, it will take some to get it, so I wanted to research and order everything together.

I'm considering:
Fortin EVO-ONE-SUB1 (includes the Subaru harness)
Fortin FLU-100.2 (Flash link updater)
Fortin RF641W (includes 2 1-way 4-button remote controls)
Mini tap connectors
 
Discussion starter · #38 ·
After a quick search, when 'security relocking' is enabled it will just relock the doors if you unlock them but don't access the vehicle. So if you accidentally unlock the doors (e.g. accidentally sit on your key fob) the doors will relock if the vehicle is not accessed. Prevents your car from sitting there unlocked.

Consider ordering the EVO-ONE module separate from the subaru harness...you may save some money. The harness part is THAR-ONE-SUB1. This is what I did and found it to be much cheaper. Definitely use the harness though, it will make the install that much easier.

I used the Crimestopper (Fortin?) RFALL641W/RF641W remotes with the EVO-ONE when I did an install on a Chevy Silverado. Install was easy (one cord to plug in) and worked as expected.

If you do end up using tap connectors, get some that are high quality conenctors such as posi-tap. I ended up soldering all my connections because I was super paranoid about a tap connector coming loose. Figured I would spend the extra time soldering connections, rather than potentially having to hunt down a bad connection later...especially since access to the wiring is not easy once everything is put back together.
 
After a quick search, when 'security relocking' is enabled it will just relock the doors if you unlock them but don't access the vehicle. So if you accidentally unlock the doors (e.g. accidentally sit on your key fob) the doors will relock if the vehicle is not accessed. Prevents your car from sitting there unlocked.
You are 100% correct. I just tested it and it works like that.
What I want is an option for the car to automatically lock the doors after I start driving (time or speed driven). That option has been on my last 2 cars. I incorrectly assumed that this one would have it.

The same goes for the audible (horn, beep or chirp) confirmation when the car is locked with the remote. In my other car it makes a short horn when I press the lock botton after it has already been locked. I like the audible reassurance that the car is locked.

I will consider ordering the EVO-ONE module separate and the subaru harness separately and see if I can save money that way. Will definitely get the harness.

I plan to use the Posi-Taps.
 
Jstluise,

I'm confused with the installation guide (available on the Fortin website) for EVO-ONE with Subaru T harness. How many wires from the car need to be cut and/or tapped?

Thanks.
 
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