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My previous vehicle (Ford Power Stroke Turbo Diesel 7.3) mostly had a diet of the Ford Motor Craft 15w40 Diesel Rated Oil (Made for Ford by Conoco-Phillips) It was too a "Hydrocracked" based dino oil according to their information. Although this oil was not Synthetic, it was a product of "Hydrocracking" per Ford. They did offer a Synthetic Version, a 5w40 product.
 
Actually after a few more tries, I did get a clone of the thread.

spent about an hour going through the first 640 posts. 510 of which can/will be removed. It will take some time
Wow, that's a worthy/noble effort, hats off to you! :Banane35:
 
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Its a Group III Hydrocracked mineral oil....just like perhaps about 90% of all the oils labeled as "synthetic" in the US.
That being said, I am surprised Subaru has the 7500 mile oil/oil filter change. I guess the main reason is the Subaru Synthetic Oil not being 100% synthetic and the small oil filter?? I have read on some posts where Subaru has changed the oil change to 6000 miles on the 2015 models.
 
That being said, I am surprised Subaru has the 7500 mile oil/oil filter change. I guess the main reason is the Subaru Synthetic Oil not being 100% synthetic and the small oil filter?? I have read on some posts where Subaru has changed the oil change to 6000 miles on the 2015 models.

I think it is unrelated to oil condition, and more related to the sporadic oil consumption problems in a small % of these new engines.

If in doubt, Used Oil Analysis (with interpretation of the results by someone other than a clerk) of your individual vehicle is one way to tell if you are changing it often enough. The small oil filter is WAY big enough to take care of anything in a regular OCI. On many of my vehicles, and ALL of them that don't REQUIRE an Oil filter change at every OCI, I leave the filter in the system for at least two OCI's....filters get MORE EFFECTIVE as they are used longer...up until the point they go into bypass mode. I've checked about 15 different engines with UOA's, and ALL of them have lower Insoluables during the second OCI....which validates the second and third OCI with the same filter. The only reason I used to change my Ford Modular engine filter after the third OCI was related to time, not mileage.

Follow Manufacturer's instructions during warranty periods. Afterwards, there are many alternatives that can actually save money, not hurt longevity, and may actually be better for the engine than the manufacturer's recommendation.
 
I think it is unrelated to oil condition, and more related to the sporadic oil consumption problems in a small % of these new engines.

If in doubt, Used Oil Analysis (with interpretation of the results by someone other than a clerk) of your individual vehicle is one way to tell if you are changing it often enough. The small oil filter is WAY big enough to take care of anything in a regular OCI. On many of my vehicles, and ALL of them that don't REQUIRE an Oil filter change at every OCI, I leave the filter in the system for at least two OCI's....filters get MORE EFFECTIVE as they are used longer...up until the point they go into bypass mode. I've checked about 15 different engines with UOA's, and ALL of them have lower Insoluables during the second OCI....which validates the second and third OCI with the same filter. The only reason I used to change my Ford Modular engine filter after the third OCI was related to time, not mileage.

Follow Manufacturer's instructions during warranty periods. Afterwards, there are many alternatives that can actually save money, not hurt longevity, and may actually be better for the engine than the manufacturer's recommendation.
I have and always changed my oil filter with each oil change, and will continue to do so. I do know some diesel truck owners that would go every other oil change with the main oil filter because they had a oil bypass or oil slinger as a secondary oil filter. The oil filters are small on the 2014 Forester, I would not be comfortable without using a new oil filter at each oil change. Thanks for your information, much appreciated.
 
No I haven't, my previous cars have never had oil consumption issues. I will definitely have to be vigilant on this one. Chalk it up as a lesson learned!
Read you first post on this issue and this post. I would be very concerned, and as a prospective buyer I am also concerned. I would take it up with you dealer immediately. Be nice at first, and if they try and brush you off... be not so nice in a hurry.

There is no excuse for this regardless of what it say in the manual which sounds like Subaru is CTA for quality control issues either in engine manufacturing and/or component sourcing.

You shouldn't have to be "viligant". Should you check the oil once in a while... sure. Should you need to check the oil at every fill up... ridiculous, and also very inaccurate! That's engineering and QC from the 60's. I'm betting that 99% of the population NEVER checks their oil between changes. Is that smart... no, but I'm also betting that 99% of those folks never have an issue.

Hope it works out for you. I hate to see consumers get screwed... no matter the manufacturer, or product.
 
Should you need to check the oil at every fill up... ridiculous, and also very inaccurate! That's engineering and QC from the 60's.
The CR-V manual I downloaded from Honda's web site when we were thinking of buying one says to check the oil at every fill up. It's just less likely to be burning any.
 
The CR-V manual I downloaded from Honda's web site when we were thinking of buying one says to check the oil at every fill up. It's just less likely to be burning any.
I'm sure it does. Doesn't matter the brand... they all want to CTA.

I would love to know what percentage of Forester or CRV drivers... or any drivers of any make even know where the hood release or hood latch is located. Never mind how many know where the dip stick is and how to check the oil.

Anyhow, back to the thread... I sure hope Subaru gets this worked out soon. Asking the driver of a brand new $25,000 - $35,000 car to check their oil at every fill up is in my opinion should be considered an insult to the manufacturer.
 
I'd rather promote people checking oil level at every fillup than put down the manufacturer for advising to do so. If the result was the same it wouldn't be a big deal, but a good number of posts here from people that blew their engines due to oil starvation resulted from low oil level supports my point.

Manufacturers wanting to CTA is all great, but I want to CMA and not get stranded. Seems common sense to me.

Stan
 
I'd rather promote people checking oil level at every fillup than put down the manufacturer for advising to do so. If the result was the same it wouldn't be a big deal, but a good number of posts here from people that blew their engines due to oil starvation resulted from low oil level supports my point.

Manufacturers wanting to CTA is all great, but I want to CMA and not get stranded. Seems common sense to me.

Stan
Thinking about it for a while and I believe you do have a valid point, especially in the case of new Subaru owners. I guess you point is... better safe than sorry, and if it saves some folks a blown engine then it is good advise. However, I still stand by my statement that a manufacturer should be embarrassed that an owner finds they are down a quart of oil in 1000 miles on a brand new car no matter where they check it.
 
I think it has been established in the 3,800+ posts in this thread that Subaru should not be proud of this.

The point of this thread is to REPORT your oil consumption and discuss solutions. Chatting about other manufacturers and complaining about Subaru fills this thread will fluff and makes it next to impossible to find any helpful information.

90% of the non-focused chatter in here should take place via PM or in other threads.

Prospective buyers should discuss their concerns here: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbull...er.org/vbulletin/f151/has-oil-consumption-problem-been-fixed-140849/index7.html

Class-Action lawsuit discussion should take place here: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbull...155/2011-14-forester-oil-consumption-class-action-lawsuit-merged-thread-360817/

If you want to contribute to "data" collection, participate in these polls:
http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f183/oil-consumption-poll-343889/
http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f183/new-poll-what-my-your-oil-eating-forester-347634/
http://www.subaruforester.org/vbull...rg/vbulletin/f183/new-poll-when-did-your-fb25-forester-started-burn-oil-347626/

If you want to discuss oil weight changes, do it here: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f183/30-wt-oil-fb-your-results-206465/


This thread contains some useful information, but it is buried and will likely never be found by the people who could benefit from the information. How about we focus on the topics each thread is intended to be be about so that everyone can benefit.
 
Hi I have a 2012 forester that is burning more than a quart of oil every 1000 miles I think this is rediculous. Do u think that this is normal ? It doesn't seem right to me.
Read the thread... oh wait, it is a mess.

No, it is not normal. It is not surprising either. If you are still within warranty, go to the dealer and start an oil consumption test.
 
This thread has been CLOSED and will remain visible as an archive of previous posts.

A condensed version of this thread can be found here: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbull...bulletin/f183/2011-fb25-oil-consumption-usage-data-updates-split-thread-373601/

Please keep that thread restricted to discussing updates on your oil consumption and progress made with Subaru.

A general oil consumption discussion thread can be found here: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbull...183/2011-fb25-discussion-about-oil-consumption-split-thread-375081/#post3939001
 
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