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garyquicker 05-10-2019 11:03 AM

Headlights won't turn off - Merged thread
 
I have a 2019 Premium Forester which I received two days ago. I am having the following problem.
After shifting to reverse or drive the low beam headlights come on. There is no way to turn them off until the engine is stopped. It does not matter what the setting is: AUTO or any other setting.

I took this to the dealer. To make a long story short the service manager and the salesman eventually agreed. They had no answer.

Any thoughts on what might be causing this.

Thanks

bbottomley 05-10-2019 11:53 AM

DRLs?

ryanb 05-10-2019 12:01 PM

To build off of what @bbottomley said, in anything other than the Limited and Touring, the main headlight also serves as the DRL. In the Limited and Touring they use the "C Light" or "boomerang" for DRL. This is discussed in this thread.

jmw15 05-10-2019 12:27 PM

An easy way to verify that indeed the lights are just DRL, look at the tail lights, not on when headlights are off.

ForesterBill 05-10-2019 01:47 PM

The DRLs on my 2018 shut off when the transmission is in Park. Otherwise they are always on.

bbottomley 05-10-2019 02:02 PM

Everything sounds like DRLs, but for the unknowing reaction from the service manager.

Subaru's procedure has always been that DRLs come on when the engine is running, parking brake is off, and (if automatic transmission) is not in Park. They have swapped around a bit between using low beams or high beams, always running at less than full brilliance, and in recent years have switched to fancy LEDs in some of the higher priced models—not yours or mine.

OriginalTwoTone 05-10-2019 05:09 PM

I bet the manual goes over it.

garyquicker 05-10-2019 05:11 PM

Head lights won't turn off 2
 
I posted the following post previously:

I have a 2019 Premium Forester which I received two days ago. I am having the following problem.
After shifting to reverse or drive the low beam headlights come on. There is no way to turn them off until the engine is stopped. It does not matter what the setting is: AUTO or any other setting.

I took this to the dealer. To make a long story short the service manager and the salesman eventually agreed. They had no answer.

Any thoughts on what might be causing this.

Thanks

I received answers such as DSL.

Common sense tells me those LOW BEAM HEADLIGHTS should not come on when shifting to reverse or drive. Why have the sensor that turns your headlights on at dusk if they are already on.

Steel City Subi 05-10-2019 05:43 PM

Read both of your posts. If I understand your question,
I agree with the folks who suggested it’s the DRL’s. They are always on when car is not in park.

To check, have someone put car in gear and look at your headlamps. If the bulbs on the inner part of the headlamp are on, these are the DRLs. The actual headlights are the outer bulbs.
The headlights are brighter than the DRLs. When you turn on the headlights, the DRLs go off.

bbottomley 05-10-2019 05:47 PM

I have merged your new thread with the original one to keep things together.

DRLs (Daytime Running Lights) are to help other cars see you in daytime. On most Subarus they aren't a separate set of lights but a special usage of the headlights. They light up one set of headlights at less than full brilliance. Just the headlights. No taillights or anything else.

'Turning on' the headlights lights them up at full brilliance, enables use of both high and low beams, and also lights up tail lights and a few others. For nighttime driving or periods of low visibility.

OriginalTwoTone 05-11-2019 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garyquicker (Post 7537887)
I posted the following post previously:

I have a 2019 Premium Forester which I received two days ago. I am having the following problem.
After shifting to reverse or drive the low beam headlights come on. There is no way to turn them off until the engine is stopped. It does not matter what the setting is: AUTO or any other setting.

I took this to the dealer. To make a long story short the service manager and the salesman eventually agreed. They had no answer.

Any thoughts on what might be causing this.

Thanks

I received answers such as DSL.

Common sense tells me those LOW BEAM HEADLIGHTS should not come on when shifting to reverse or drive. Why have the sensor that turns your headlights on at dusk if they are already on.


Careful throwing out the common sense bit. Sounds like you haven't owned a modern vehicle. Common Sense would be to take the time to read the owners manual.

FelineFreddie 05-11-2019 02:24 PM

How about the simple approach?

Go to the dealership and see what happens with the other models the dealership has on its lot like the one you own...

I’m betting on the DRL answer.

garyquicker 05-13-2019 09:04 AM

Headlights won't turn off # 3
 
I previously posted the following message:

I have a 2019 Premium Forester which I received two days ago. I am having the following problem.
After shifting to reverse or drive the low beam headlights come on. There is no way to turn them off until the engine is stopped. It does not matter what the setting is: AUTO or any other setting.

I took this to the dealer. To make a long story short the service manager and the salesman eventually agreed. They had no answer.

Any thoughts on what might be causing this.

Thanks

I received answers such as DRL.

Common sense tells me those LOW BEAM HEADLIGHTS should not come on when shifting to reverse or drive. Why have the sensor that turns your headlights on at dusk if they are already on.

Another suggestion was to turn the lights on when in park and then compare them to the lights that are on when in drive. I did that. There is no difference. The outside LED and the inside yellow lights are both on. I said above that the service manager and the salesman did not have an answer. That was a long story short. I will expand that story more. For the first several minutes they thought I simply did not understand how the lights worked. The service manager told me they were on because we were inside and it was somewhat dark. I said that didn't matter and let's take it outside. We took it outside and the low beam headlights still came on. The service manager got inside the car and fooled around with stuff. I don't know what. The service manager then agreed with me. He had no answer and said he would try to find out something. He has not called.

Bottom line: they come on when shifted into reverse or drive; they will not turn off until the car is shifted into park.

I think there is a defect with something. It is going to be a warranty issue and I am not looking forward to it. I think it will be a battle. Hopefully not.

bbottomley 05-13-2019 09:20 AM

Once again I have merged your threads. Please do not start new threads to continue an already established discussion. We have a strong policy here of keeping everything together for future reference.

garyquicker 05-13-2019 09:57 AM

Nonsense. I am 68 years old. I have owned plenty of modern cars. I have looked in the manual, a lot. No answer. That manual is by far the worst manual I have ever had.


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