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Wondering If Tires Will Last to Lease End

I am not about to put tires on a leased vehicle.

I rotate my tires every 7500 miles like told to do so, but even so the tires on my '14 Forester seem to wearing unusually fast. I maintain proper tire pressure at all times.

I have about 23000 miles on the vehicle and you can see the outer edge is just about worn down, the center of the tire still has some depth in the treads, but not like when they were new.

Also wondering how these tires will be in the snow and ice this winter.

Could be they are cheapest tires Subaru could find to put on these vehicles.

Just wondering if tires are covered under the 36 month/36000 mile warranty or if the warranty is from the tire mfg.?

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Tire warranty would be from Yokohama, not Subaru.

They would probably do pro-rated replacement pricing for premature wear, but I don't know what the Geolandar G91s are rated for, if anything.

If need be, get new tires and then keep the old ones. Put the old ones back on before you return the lease. Keep the new ones for your next Forester, or resell them on here.

Don't risk your life by using poor tires longer than it is safe to do so.


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...the tires on my '14 Forester seem to wearing unusually fast.
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Have you measured the tread depth?

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Have you measured the tread depth?

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Good idea Jim. I haven't, but I will. I have a small ruler that goes down to 32nds also.

Seems that most of the wear is on the outside edges of the tires.

Josh, I have to get tires rotated in a month or so and will have my tire guy take a look at them. He's honest, he won't say I need tires if I don't.
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Good idea Jim. I haven't, but I will. I have a small ruler that goes down to 32nds also.

Seems that most of the wear is on the outside edges of the tires.

Josh, I have to get tires rotated in a month or so and will have my tire guy take a look at them. He's honest, he won't say I need tires if I don't.
Then your tires are underinflated for the weight they are carrying. Classic indication.

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FWIW, the Geolandars have been notorious for outside edge wear for many years - these complaints go back all the way to the SG generation. Either that, or a lot of people are habitually underinflating them. IMHO they just don't wear very well.

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How cheap are people. It's a car and tires are needed for safety. If you need to buy tires buy some tires. I don't want to sound hars but man cars come with simple maintenance and that's something you just have to do.

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It might be worth checking the lease agreement T's and C's re the tires. Specifically, there may be a "minimum tread depth" spec for when you return the car. As long as the tires are above that spec, you're technically OK.

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tonyford, the tires may read door-card pressures, but I'd tweak them to the point where you see even wear instead.

As for your current concern, I'd go ahead and spend some money for a set of winter tires mounted on their own rims. Swap them out at first sign of snow, and take them off when there's no snow in the forecast next Spring. This will help you save wear on your current set, which may allow you to extend them through lease-end. If you don't think they'll make it to the end of your lease, you may want to go ahead and initiate a claim for excessive wear, and take the pro-rated replacement cost they offer so that you will not be docked for tire replacement at the end of your lease.

If your replacement vehicle does not share sizing/fitment with your current Forester at your next go-around, look to sell your used winter tire/wheel set here on this Forum and other Subaru Forums - offer them at a steep discount: both parties will walk away happy.

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How cheap are people. It's a car and tires are needed for safety. If you need to buy tires buy some tires. I don't want to sound hars but man cars come with simple maintenance and that's something you just have to do.
Buying tires for a leased vehicle is NOT simple maintenance. The tires should last the entire term of the lease unless you don't maintain them.

I maintain them. I have them rotated every 7500 miles and keep the correct tire pressure. In fact I always add 1 or 2 psi to what is indicated on the sticker inside the door frame. I think it's 30 fronts and 29 rear tires. I keep them 32 and 31 psi.

Josh has a good idea in case I absolutely have to get new tires.

I have 23000 miles only on these tires and only keeping the vehicle for another 13000 miles or so. I should not have to lay out over $400 for tires, that is ludicrous for a leased vehicle. And that has nothing to do with simple maintenance and being cheap.

Definitely going to check the Yokohama warranty on the tires. The tires should last the entire length of the lease, at least you would think so.

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Best bet is to look into the lease contract to see what you are required to do as previously mentioned. Next step is to note tread depth, watch over the next few months. I got 38,000 moles out of the Geolandars on my SG. I drove that car hard. I think the culprit is understeer.

Have you leased a vehicle before?

First time I leased*, I think I had the 'oh crap' moment at about 24k miles. My reaction was to go over the contract for things like cracked wind screen, tread depth, dings, miles, necessary receipts for maintenance, etc.

*note: for trolls, I am not leasing a vehicle currently, however would do so in a heartbeat if the right deal came down. Subsidized leasing is 'god's' gift to the automotive world, so long as you have good credit.

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FWIW, the Geolandars have been notorious for outside edge wear for many years - these complaints go back all the way to the SG generation. Either that, or a lot of people are habitually underinflating them. IMHO they just don't wear very well.
That might be, but the G95s on my '10 have essentially even wear across the tread width after 42k and I still have 6-7/32nd left on them. The Geos I had on my '03 Windstar were in the same condition after over 50k, so I'll stick with my incorrect tire pressure theory.

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^You think he needs to run his tires ~5psi under recommended pressure?

This reminds me of the Firestone Wilderness AT exploding tire days of the early 2000's.

You may be correct, but I tend to believe the wear might be related to Tony's driving style being incompatible with this particular tire. I recall past posts that he lives off a winding hilly route where spirited driving is offered daily. This is a good thing, except for $$$'s. A more performance oriented tire would wear more evenly, albeit, probably have a shorter life.

Tony, I mean no offense by my assumptions.

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^You think he needs to run his tires ~5psi under recommended pressure?
You mean this for me??? I never said nor intimated any such thing. I said it was my opining his tired were under inflated, not over.

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Definitely going to check the Yokohama warranty on the tires.
Doesn't look promising.

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