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post #31 of 491 (permalink) Old 03-12-2007, 11:07 PM Thread Starter
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Great work Dr. wadejgthankyou.
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Hey, any moderators: For some reason in my original post all the links to posts on this forum show up with a 404 error message-not found on server. Any clue what the problem is?

For instance here is one of the links:
https://www.subaruforester.org/vbulle...ead.php?t=2907

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The admin has changed the post URL by removing the /forums/ folder, so for your example above this should be the correct URL: https://www.subaruforester.org/vbulle...ead.php?t=2907

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The admin has changed the post URL by removing the /forums/ folder, so for your example above this should be the correct URL: https://www.subaruforester.org/vbulle...ead.php?t=2907
I went through and edited them all so they work now.

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So all the WRX/STI mods should work on a 2007 FXT??
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So all the WRX/STI mods should work on a 2007 FXT??
Yep.

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If you put springs intended for the WRX or STi on your stock Forester struts they will wear out quickly because of the huge drop and higher rates. A few others may disagree with this statement. Tough nuts. I’m right.
Damn, this bums me. My buddy is looking to get rid of his stock STi springs and I was going to take them off of his hands for a few bucks. I guess I would require different struts for this since I am on stock. :(
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Damn, this bums me. My buddy is looking to get rid of his stock STi springs and I was going to take them off of his hands for a few bucks. I guess I would require different struts for this since I am on stock. :(
He is right and we completely agree with him on the stock struts going out because there is less stroke, meaning that the strut will have more short compressions strokes. This is another reason for premature strut wear and why when the Swifts were designed, maximizing stroke was a major concern. More short strokes will wear the struts out much faster.

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If you want to go as low as the STI springs, aftermarket struts are needed. The alternatives include the stock STI, Tokico D-specs, and Koni strut inserts for WRX bodies.

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do you recommend '04+ wrx wagon or sedan suspension for the forester?

I miss my turbo, and my 6-speeds of fun.
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If you want to go as low as the STI springs, aftermarket struts are needed. The alternatives include the stock STI, Tokico D-specs, and Koni strut inserts for WRX bodies.

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Yup, Agreed. :)

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do you recommend '04+ wrx wagon or sedan suspension for the forester?
For your average person the sedan struts are preferable, as the suspension bolt holes on the strut are the same as the Forester. If you use the wagon struts you will get an increase in negative camber that is likely too much for everyday use. The ideal would be to pair these with the wagon springs to bring the back end up a bit.

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For your average person the sedan struts are preferable, as the suspension bolt holes on the strut are the same as the Forester. If you use the wagon struts you will get an increase in negative camber that is likely too much for everyday use. The ideal would be to pair these with the wagon springs to bring the back end up a bit.

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Would you be able to correct the additional negative camber with camber bolts? I may be doing some auto-x this summer, so maybe the negative camber would be beneficial?

And I just want to be clear, if using a WRX suspension, '05+ WRX Sedan struts with Wagon springs is the best combo, correct?

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[QUOTE=singincanary;169108]Would you be able to correct the additional negative camber with camber bolts? I may be doing some auto-x this summer, so maybe the negative camber would be beneficial?

And I just want to be clear, if using a WRX suspension, '05+ WRX Sedan struts with Wagon springs is the best combo, correct?[/QUOTE

The negative camber could be corrected, preferably with camber plates in front and adjustable lateral links or camber plates in the rear. Camber bolts can and do slip. The problem with using camber plates in the rear is that they have known clunking problems.

But this is a situation where you are adding an additional degree of negative camber. Do you really plan on running -3 degrees plus of negative camber?

Yes 2005+ WRX sedan struts with WRX wagon springs would be ideal. The most ideal, but significantly more expensive, springs would be WRX STI wagon springs (either US aftermarket STI or JDM OEM STI). I'm guessing you could find takeoff USDM WRX wagon springs for free-$50.

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This a great thread. I am a noob, and this is great stuff. I'm wondering if all the generations of the Forester share the same suspension? I'm looking at buying an early model 98 or 99 forester, and want to lower it with wrx springs/struts. Do these work on the older foresters, or only the new ones?
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EDITED: K, never mind. Just using '04 USDM STi on the FXT struts is not a good idea I see (after reading this thread a bit better). I'll try and pick up some '04 STi struts as well.

Does anyone here have any experience with the Tein S-techs for the FXT? I know they aren't the greatest springs in the world (having heard much about them from the Impreza crowd). But I was thinking maybe they'd be OK for short term. Thoughts?


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