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I've never owned an SUV-type vehicle and in fact have often disparaged them (sorry about that). But I'll be ready for a new vehicle in the next couple of years and my wife and I have decided that a small SUV or crossover vehicle would be the best for our current lifestyle. My last two personal cars have been sport sedans (Audi A4, BMW 325), but now that I'm retired and we're doing more traveling (often taking bikes with us), and I'm also into x-c skiing, duathlons and other cycling activities, it just makes sense to go this way.

Anyway, I've always been intrigued by Subaru as the most likely Japanese-brand vehicle I might buy. The new Outback is just too big for us, so I've been looking at the possibility of a Forester probably in the 2012 model cycle.

But I've also always hated to buy a particular model only to see it look outdated when they come out with the "all new" model a year later. I'm not sure what the platform history of the Forester is, but does anyone know when Subaru is scheduled to make a major redesign? If it's as soon as 2013, I'd even be willing to wait the extra year for it (not really that anxious to give up the Bimmer!).

By the way, the other vehicle I'm considering is the Ford Escape, and I know for a fact that it's going to get a full redesign for 2012 and probably move to more of a "crossover" look like they just did with the Explorer. So that's possible competition for the Forester for my interests.
 
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Nice diagram of X-Mode, but can anyone explain what it is?
From the diagram it looks like it is a cross axle traction control system. So if you have a spinning wheel it transfers power to the one on the opposite side, defeating the differential action. Usually achieved by braking the spinning wheel(s). You won't get lockers on a crossover type vehicle, far too expensive and risk of clueless users misusing them and wrecking the drivetrain.

--Steve
 
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http://translate.googleusercontent....d.html&usg=ALkJrhjuulaZSp_5mlpPflROHDTRL_Xatg

Nope, it's found on the non-turbo versions as well.

http://translate.googleusercontent....d.html&usg=ALkJrhiPCTjKCMpqQU9QmlxV2myddTAr-A

Black A button confirmed for start/stop idle feature on/off. Only on non-turbo models apparently.

Turbocharged engine chart for HP and torque (JDM spec of course; yes that's a CVT only)


http://translate.googleusercontent....d.html&usg=ALkJrhjuulaZSp_5mlpPflROHDTRL_Xatg

Tire ends up idling in climbing the mountain roads and rough when moving off from a snow-covered road, even if it is difficult to escape the control intervention instantly if I should switch to the ON position of the X-MODE in advance. By integrating the engine and transmission control · AWD · VDC, adequate control and four-wheel brakes and the driving force, we achieve a smooth escape.
So it is similar to Toyota's Crawl Control.

http://translate.googleusercontent....t.html&usg=ALkJrhhTCOtobnGqR1qRSN-iN66sZQn9yg

http://www.subaru.jp/forester/forester/utility/utility.swf

Memory setting for power rear liftgate that can be used if the Forester is in a parking garage so it doesn't open all the way if you set it to memorize that height setting. ONLY on top model trims for JDM. Most likely the same for USDM and makes sense being a luxury-like convenience feature.

Full spec sheet for JDM version:
http://translate.googleusercontent..../spec/&usg=ALkJrhi6nEHHzy9YtF_mF8H-xDKJYuoZ6A

The one thing I'm hoping they bring over as far as compatibility is that we can get SAP with EyeSight. JDM gets the keyless entry and push button start WITH EyeSight. Hopefully, unlike the USDM 2013 Subaru Outback, the USDM 2014 Subaru Forester can have both EyeSight and the SAP package.

http://www.subaru.jp/forester/forester/safety/eyesight.swf

:D YAY! MID displays EyeSight warnings and alerts as well!
 
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Numbers don't get translated if they're not spelled out. Those numbers are present on the non-translated version so as far as I can see the translation isn't incorrect as far as measurements go. It's more likely a typo on the Japanese side rather than an error with a translation.
 
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In case anybody is still wondering, yes, it does still have a giant sunroof.


New door sill keeps legs cleaner:


Old sill requires careful stepping to avoid leg dirt:



I guess this is supposed to show soft-touch surfaces or something, but it looks like they're going to have the T-mobile girl race across America with her 4G Forester XT. :huh:
 
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I guess this is supposed to show soft-touch surfaces or something, but it looks like they're going to have the T-mobile girl race across America with her 4G Forester XT. :huh:
Hope the area above the outer armrest, where door meets window, isn't completely hard plastic. (I use that as an armrest most of the time.)

Download and salivate away :) ... 14 MB of high-res bliss !

http://www.subaru-media.jp/e-catalog...2/forester.pdf
Something wrong with that link. Missing part of the URL, looks like.
 
#906 ·
According to the swedish Subaru site, X-mode is a new system to assist on difficult roads and terrain. It controls throttle, transmission and brakes. As far as I can judge, you get crawl mode, and hill-decent assist.
It is available for all engines, but only with the Lineartronic transmission.

We will get 3 models here - all 2.0L. Diesel with same power as it has today, N/A with 150bhp, and the XT with 240bhp / 350nm torque (someone feel free to translate this to what you use in the US).
 
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According the the Japanese specs, the top 2.5 CVT trim lost around 82 lbs (rough estimate comparing to 2012 2.5 touring trim with 4EAT), but then there is a note on the weight about sunroof + side airbags + eyesight adding 40kg (88lbs) and hard to tell if that's reflected in the table... XT appears to have gained 38 lbs.

Edit: yeah I'm comparing 2.0i to 2.5i so that's not going to be meaningful, at least on the non-turbo. More confusion added.

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The fuel tank also got smaller (15.8 gal vs 16.9).
 
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