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post #1 of 39 (permalink) Old 05-11-2019, 05:52 PM Thread Starter
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Keep 2015 Forester with ~ 76,000 Miles or Trade-in for 2019 for ~$

This is a tough decision for me.

We have received a trade-in / purchase offer for our 2015 Forester (base, with a few upgrades) that has almost 76,000 miles on it for $14,000. I'm able to get a 2019 Forester for around $22,000 ($2,000 under invoice). After doing the math, calculating tax, documentation, and trade-in, the out of pocket cost would come out to around $9,000.

Do you think it is worth it?

Although I'm worried about potential future repairs and the value of our current vehicle dropping, I'm also worried I'm just trying to justify an upgrade!

So, I'd appreciate any advice.

Thank you all in advance!

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Curious as to your location as $2000 under invoice in a base model sounds high. $2000 under invoice on a higher end model (Limited, Touring) is a great deal. Just don’t see it on base model.

Would appreciate your sharing dealer name as I’d buy base today for $22k.

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I'll send you a message.
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If you are happy with the 2015, keep it, especially if you have to finance the $9000 difference.

Another consideration...The 2019s have Auto Stop/Start which you will either love or hate.

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Wait until later in the year, you may be able to get a leftover 2019 for a good discount.
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If you are happy with the 2015, keep it, especially if you have to finance the $9000 difference.

Another consideration...The 2019s have Auto Stop/Start which you will either love or hate.

I'm happy with it, just concerned about future repairs and the value dropping.


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Wait until later in the year, you may be able to get a leftover 2019 for a good discount.
Do you think I'll be able to get one for more than $2,000 under invoice, because that's the offer I'm getting now. We also need to think about the value of our current Forester dropping.



Thank you both!
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I'm happy with it, just concerned about future repairs and the value dropping.




Do you think I'll be able to get one for more than $2,000 under invoice, because that's the offer I'm getting now. We also need to think about the value of our current Forester dropping.



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Probably a bit under invoice at that point. https://www.autotrader.com/car-shopp...d-model-243364
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$2000 under invoice. Not possible unless they juggled numbers on the trade. $2000 under MSRP would be more like it.

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I'm happy with it, just concerned about future repairs and the value dropping.

Do you think I'll be able to get one for more than $2,000 under invoice, because that's the offer I'm getting now. We also need to think about the value of our current Forester dropping.


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$1,000 under invoice is a good price. $1,500 under invoice is great price. $2,000 under invoice is an excellent price and you will probably not do much better.


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$2000 under invoice. Not possible unless they juggled numbers on the trade. $2000 under MSRP would be more like it.
It is very possible. Many dealers will sell at invoice with no negotiation. Many will easily go $1,000 below invoice pretty easily and there are some lucky ones here who have gotten $1,500-2,00 below invoice.
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I say to upgrade to the 19...night and day from what you are driving now. Moreover, being in DEBT is the American way...what's another car payment anyway??? You only live once and can't take it with you...enjoy life and the new ride


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$2000 under invoice. Not possible unless they juggled numbers on the trade. $2000 under MSRP would be more like it.
Actually, we were offered $2,000 under invoice without a trade. I'm going to try to get them to match a trade / purchase offer from another dealer. If they won't, I'll probably just sell to the other dealer, and go back to the one offering $2,000 under invoice and purchase it there.


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I say to upgrade to the 19...night and day from what you are driving now. Moreover, being in DEBT is the American way...what's another car payment anyway??? You only live once and can't take it with you...enjoy life and the new ride<img src="https://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/images/SubaruForester_2014/icons/post_thumbsup.png" border="0" alt="" title="Thumbs Up" class="inlineimg" />
Thank you for the great laugh!

From a financial perspective, do you think it's a good choice? I don't like the idea of another car payment, but if there is a good chance it'll save us money in the long run then it's worth it.
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Actually, we were offered $2,000 under invoice without a trade. I'm going to try to get them to match a trade / purchase offer from another dealer. If they won't, I'll probably just sell to the other dealer, and go back to the one offering $2,000 under invoice and purchase it there.




Thank you for the great laugh!

From a financial perspective, do you think it's a good choice? I don't like the idea of another car payment, but if there is a good chance it'll save us money in the long run then it's worth it.
I suppose it depends how long you plan to keep the '19 vs the '15 to figure out the "long-run". Maybe one way is to look at anticipated repair and larger service costs associated with each over a specific time period. If you did go with a '19 I would think it'd be worth it to invest in a longer term subaru-gold warranty due to the amount of tech vs the '15.

Just chiming in b/c I'm also driving a '15 premium (though with only 41k miles) and I'd like to upgrade a lot of things in the '15 - the headunit/sterio being one, the steering wheel, fog lights, arch moldings etc... when I add up the basic mods I want to do it puts me in a similar boat to you as many of the changes could be had from a premium level '19, not to mention the safety tech from eyesight, or the LED headlights. But ya, it's around 8-9k difference for me too - a bit less when factoring in the cost of some mods.
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Do you think the better question for me to ask is if we can get another four years and 76,000 miles (bringing us to 2023 and 152,000 miles) out of our current 2015 Forester for less than $9,000 in repairs and depreciation? Maybe that's the better question to ask. There must be a good method of figuring this out.

I'm seriously considering the warranty you mentioned if we do get a new Forester.


In your case, do you think the modifications might decrease the value if you decide to sell it or trade it in, assuming they're not OEM modifications?
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Do you think the better question for me to ask is if we can get another four years and 76,000 miles (bringing us to 2023 and 152,000 miles) out of our current 2015 Forester for less than $9,000 in repairs and depreciation? Maybe that's the better question to ask. There must be a good method of figuring this out.
The only super major cost would be if the CVT goes south after warranty. It costs around $8-9k to replace. look up the trade value of an 2011 Forester with around 152k miles on it. That would give you an idea of what yours may be worth in 2023 when it is 8 years old with that mileage.


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In your case, do you think the modifications might decrease the value if you decide to sell it or trade it in, assuming they're not OEM modifications?
The closer to stock the better because a stock vehicle can easily be sold to anyone. Modified vehicles only appeal to a small amount of people.

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That's a lot to replace the transmission! If we keep the 2015 Forester I'll probably check to see what third-party warranties are available.

According to Kelly Blue Book, our current Forester is worth close to $11,000 (trade-in value) and the 2011 with 152,000 miles is worth close to $3,500.

That's a $7,500 difference.
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