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Hi, could you please clarify something for me. I am trying to find 16" rims for my 09 Forester.

When I enter my car information I get:
Wheel Products By Vehicle - Discount Tire

Unless I have a blind spot your site lists rims with every offset BUT the Subaru 48mm offset.

Why are you listing wheels for a Forester that have something other than the Subaru 48mm offset? I have to now go to the manufacturers site to find out that there is no 16" rims with a 48mm offset.

Would it not be helpful to list the offset on your website like tirerack does? Do you make customers aware of this offset issue when they are ordering? Deviating from 48mm offsets lead to bearing issues.

I do not mean to come across as being difficult. However, I am a member of this forum and I am looking for some new rims. Therefore, I thought I would start with a supporting vendor. However, your website it not useful and more importantly is inaccurate.

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That is weird. If you put in an earlier year Forester you get wheels in the +45 to +50 range.






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Not to turn this into a rant against tire shops but it forces customers like me to know a lot more than they should have to. I just want a Forester specific rim.

If I bought a 38mm offset and a bearing went.......I get the screw. Someone in Calgary last year tried this very thing for my winters. I ordered them 48mm from TR.


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Won't the offset also depend on the width of the wheel?

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I do not know.
Hopefully, someone knows. I am looking for a rim to hold Yokohama Geo AT2.

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Nevermind, the 16s you are looking at are same width as stock 17s, so the offset should be the same.

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Now here is my search results from Tirerack:

Wheels for 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Base Model

Please note it provide only offsets of 48 or 50 AND the offset is listed. No going to manufactueres site.

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Now here is my search results from Tirerack:

Wheels for 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Base Model

Please note it provide only offsets of 48 or 50 AND the offset is listed. No going to manufactueres site.

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silly outlaw... you know you can't link tirerack on this forum.

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Won't the offset also depend on the width of the wheel?

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Yes

OEM 17x7 ET53 or 55 (can't remember)
17x8 ET48
17x9 ET42

As the wheel gets wider you move the center of the hub away from the suspension to account for the wider wheel/tire.

subieoutlaw - I do agree its annoying not to have the exact info available, not everyone even knows what offset is.
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wow i didn't know changing offsets will affect the bearings that bad? Cos the offroad guys always get pretty low offset wheels (0-20) and hadn't heard any complaints from them on the bearings issues?


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pay to play, the bearing debate ends up being whether you consider them a wear item or how fast they wear. check out the hellaflush crowd of subies . not my cup of tea, reminds me of the stretched tire look, but whatever turns your crank.

48 is the ideal, */- to your taste (or budget)..

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I honestly think DTD is a little misinformed on the offset issue and how it relates to wheel bearing failure on Subies, as evidenced earlier by this thread: 09 Forester, 215 65R 16 tires -- what wheels? - Subaru Forester Owners Forum

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The offset debate is present in the Miata community also. Some say the bearings will fail faster (I'm sure there are facts to support that), some racers swear it isn't the case. I would look at wheels designed for Forester or Impreza and stick to those offsets. I'm running 17x7 Prodrives with +53 offset, I believe that is stock Impreza specs.

In addition to the right offset, I would suggest making sure the wheels you get are hub centric for the Subaru.

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Can I expect a response from DT?


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Can I expect a response from DT?
I doubt it Outlaw, I wouldn’t expect to get an answer unless you have a set of wheels picked out, and even then I’d be surprised if they came back with the offset. DT doesn't make the wheels so they are only passing along what they can get info-wise.. I'd rather find out from the manufacture anyways.

Here is the problem; joe wheel/tire buyer drops his car off at the tire shop for new wheels. He picks from what they have sitting there ready to go and drives off with a big grin.

Now, anyone who can draw a picture, hold a ruler, and do some basic math can figure out if the offset is right or not, but a lot of wheels with wrong offsets will bolt onto your car. Too high and you are going to have clearance issues, to low and you may have wheel bearing issues. Either way it will still roll down the road for 85% of joe Q. but once you know, you know?

Those yoks come in 215/60/R17, are you sure you need to go to new wheels? for the extra 10mm of width I would go that way. think of how many trips to Kananaskis you could have done by the time you've sorted the wheels issue out?

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