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^^I'd be glad to help. What changes are you making to the intake? You were using a SPT SR with a custom built heatsheild, weren't you? I don't remember if you are opensourced or AP'd...
 

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Hehe, was about to ask the same thing. Since you're talking Chicago, I'm assuming P&L which makes me think AP'ed?

If I'm traveling for work and in your neck of the woods, I'll definitely let you know, but Chicago vs. Eville here isn't too much different.
 

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You are running AccessPort right? I heard the map would be locked when downloaded from AccessTuner to the Accessport. You would need the unlocked map from the original tuner to be able to do any modification. You might better off do the data log and ask Jorge to change it for you.

Applied Tuning Solution in Columbus are good but they would need the unlocked protuner map to be able to touch it up.
 

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^^I'd be glad to help. What changes are you making to the intake? You were using a SPT SR with a custom built heatsheild, weren't you? I don't remember if you are opensourced or AP'd...
I am AP and tuned by Jorge. Im changing intakes, going from PnL hi flow to SPT

Hehe, was about to ask the same thing. Since you're talking Chicago, I'm assuming P&L which makes me think AP'ed?

If I'm traveling for work and in your neck of the woods, I'll definitely let you know, but Chicago vs. Eville here isn't too much different.

Your 200 miles, chicago is 350+. Also I will be going to Lousiville the 21st and might be able to meetup sometime since I will be down that way.


You are running AccessPort right? I heard the map would be locked when downloaded from AccessTuner to the Accessport. You would need the unlocked map from the original tuner to be able to do any modification. You might better off do the data log and ask Jorge to change it for you.

Applied Tuning Solution in Columbus are good but they would need the unlocked protuner map to be able to touch it up.
Really? I didnt know this that tunes are locked...
 

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^That switch should be simple to retune, depending on how Jorge comp'd for the intake. You should be able to revert to stock MAF cal.

I haven't tuned with an AP, so I'm probably not the right guy for this. I only do opensource, and I'll tune a UTEC if you twist my arm...
 

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Really? I didnt know this that tunes are locked...
Access Tuner Pro that they use can do that according to Eric from Applied Tuning. Email Jorge or email erichargett at appliedtuning dot com for sure.

http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=5088

AccessTUNER Race Features

* Access to multiple tables for full NA/FI tuning control
o Fuel calibration
o Ignition calibration
o Intake camshaft phasing
o Full DBW throttle control
o VTEC window calibration
o Knock sensitivity calibration
o Intake Air Temp calibration
o Engine Coolant Temp calibration
o Closed Loop/Open Loop control
* Speed Limiter configuration
* Launch Control configuration
* Rear O2 sensor DTC defeat
* Unlimited number of AccessPORT equipped vehicles can be tuned
* Maps can be locked to prevent customer tampering, unauthorized distribution or inappropriate use
* Tuning Support: AccessTUNER Pro customers have access to AccessTUNER Pro Forums to discuss tuning issues directly with COBB Calibration Specialists and other pro tuners
* Technical Support: Outstanding technical support from the software engineering team and our expert calibrators
* Integral Data logging: Unlimited data logging of multiple channels of data from the ECU for detailed analysis of engine performance
* Integral Dashboard: Shows tuner chosen gauges to be displayed on-screen throughout the tuning process
* Unit Conversion: Ability to easily convert between metric and standard units so the tuner can use units he/she is most familiar with
* Map Database: Free access to a map database from COBB Tuning that provide excellent starting points for specific modifications
* Hot Keys: Convenient on-touch short-cut keys allow easy data manipulation of common tuning operations Open WBO2 Interface: Integrates with a wide selection of Wideband O2 sensors
* Embedded Stock Data: Stock tuning data (ROMs) are self-contained inside the software itself, providing the OEM baseline tune for each vehicle supported by the software
* Opens COBB OTS maps to allow modifications to tweak base maps perfectly
* Public Race Tuner Forum support
* Share and change maps with others
* COBB Tuning provided tuning documentation:
 

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id contact jorge, the map is def locked. if you go elsewhere they will have to start from scratch.
Just one more reason I prefer opensource. You pay all of that money for a protune, and then you don't even have the ability to tweak it if you make a minor change, unless you want to go pay another $400-500...Its a racquet...

Same reason I hate ECUtek...
 

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Just one more reason I prefer opensource. You pay all of that money for a protune, and then you don't even have the ability to tweak it if you make a minor change, unless you want to go pay another $400-500...Its a racquet...

Same reason I hate ECUtek...
well i dont believe in the regular enthuisist tweaking anything. you might get too cocky, and next thing you have a blown motor and no1 to blame but yourself. basically the map is a tuner's intellectual property in essence. i wouldnt want some1 else to see what i did unless i knew them very well, because then they would have no need for you anymore.

OS and AP have there own places in the market. with the addition of the new features to the AP its a no brainer for the avg person. for you OS guys that want to tune, just use the new street tuner sw and start from scratch... but as far as AP goes, if you have a good relationship w/ your tuner, he can unlock it for you and you can tweak until your hearts content. its hard to convince a personal who makes a living doing this though, to just give up their hard work.

if you are a diy guy, OS is a great product also. it all depends on the application and knowledge of the user in the end.
 

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well i dont believe in the regular enthuisist tweaking anything. you might get too cocky, and next thing you have a blown motor and no1 to blame but yourself. basically the map is a tuner's intellectual property in essence. i wouldnt want some1 else to see what i did unless i knew them very well, because then they would have no need for you anymore.

OS and AP have there own places in the market. with the addition of the new features to the AP its a no brainer for the avg person. for you OS guys that want to tune, just use the new street tuner sw and start from scratch... but as far as AP goes, if you have a good relationship w/ your tuner, he can unlock it for you and you can tweak until your hearts content. its hard to convince a personal who makes a living doing this though, to just give up their hard work.

if you are a diy guy, OS is a great product also. it all depends on the application and knowledge of the user in the end.
I certainly understand what you are saying, but people still come to me to have their car tuned, and you can look at exactly what I did. Even if you can view my changes, its still in a realm that most don't understand or have the confidence to mess with. The business is protected from that viewpoint.

The tuner's "IP" is protected from that most just won't mess with it. Locking it up simply ensures that. Honestly, they do it to lock you into coming back to them and to have you so invested in the process that it "hurts" to not come back. My buddy has an STi that he had ECUtek tuned (prior to knowing me), has over $2k invested in tuning alone, and its still not right. Since he has so much invested, it hard to walk away...
 

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Just one more reason I prefer opensource. You pay all of that money for a protune, and then you don't even have the ability to tweak it if you make a minor change, unless you want to go pay another $400-500...Its a racquet...

Same reason I hate ECUtek...
agreed, good luck tuned200...

question for you though... why are you going with the spt intake??? how about a aps or cold air intake that gets its air from the wheel well??

dm
 
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