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I like how several drivers were cited for various infractions, such as driving too fast for conditions, but the truck driver remains to be cited. He didn't even know at the time what he was hitting. Then again, I am no LEO.
 

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Wow that is a really serious accident, worst in Idaho history apparently?

Glad to here the driver is alive, hope he makes a full recovery

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That is amazing. Only things you can make out are the moonroof and the wheel.

Anything other than a Subaru and that man would have died.
 

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Subaru needs to pick up their "I walked away" commercials again. Except using real life examples. This is one such that should be used. I can pick out the wheels and part of the headlight to identify what car it is.... otherwise... my god...

Think of how many tons that semi weighs loaded down, and the speed they were going at. The force and stress put on that car should have flattened it to a pancake.
 

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Truly a testament to Subaru. I'm medically inclined and if you showed me that car with no story I would have bet no one walked away. Hope the fella pulls through!
 

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Speaking of why they "might not" cite the semi driver.

Having two brothers that do/did it for a living(one currently)...

One had a horrific accident where his truck rolled. Essentially two cars passed on the right going up a mountain and ran out of room before merging left again(3 lanes going to 2). One car gunned it clipping the front of his truck. His braking caused the 2nd car to misjudge the merge to behind and got ran over by the trailer.

Those two cars caused him to veer off course and run two cars right into the cliff of the fast lane.

All told...6 cars, 2 semis and a motorcyclist were in the carnage. The motorcyclist was killed when my brothers truck toppled over on top of him. The driver of the car he first hit and pushed into the cliff with the nose of his truck was sausage. That car is what caused his truck to topple over to the passenger side...on top of the motorcyclist that managed to dodge the car that started the accident(when it rear ended the semi in front of his semi).
 

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Don't know how the driver even survived this accident! Hope he recovers fully.
Regarding vehicles and safety in crashes, the 2014 Mazda CX-5 joins the Subaru Forester in getting a Good rating in the small overlap crash test and getting a Top Safety Pick+ rating from the IIHS due to changes it made from the 2013 model. So my question for you is: if both the Mazda and CX-5 received all Good ratings for front, side, etc. crashes, would they both protect you equally as well in a collision such as this one? Thanks for your input.
 

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So my question for you is: if both the Mazda and CX-5 received all Good ratings for front, side, etc. crashes, would they both protect you equally as well in a collision such as this one? Thanks for your input.
No.

This is due to Subaru's ring-shaped reinforcement frame. It is so strong that firefighters had to be issued special instructions on how to cut when it was first introduced.

What makes a Subaru, a Subaru: Subaru Ring-Shaped Reinforcement Frame

2014 Subaru Forester Body Structure | Boron Extrication
 

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No.

This is due to Subaru's ring-shaped reinforcement frame. It is so strong that firefighters had to be issued special instructions on how to cut when it was first introduced.

What makes a Subaru, a Subaru: Subaru Ring-Shaped Reinforcement Frame

2014 Subaru Forester Body Structure | Boron Extrication
So a Good rating for one vehicle isn't equal to a Good rating for another? If this is the case, when they crash test vehicles, they should use a number system from 1-100, so people can tell how much better one vehicle will protect them as opposed to another. To the ordinary person that is vehicle shopping and looking at safety ratings, if they see 2 vehicles that are both rated Good in all crash categories, they would assume that both would protect them equally. See what I mean?
Thanks for posting-great info on what makes Subaru so strong in a crash.
 

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See what I mean?
Yes.

The IIHS tests for common types of crashes. They just added the small overlap recently as that is one of the most common types of crashes.

Accidents like the one posted above are rare, but serious.

It is hard to rank safety features, but safety testimonials in the Member Mishaps - Subaru Forester Owners Forum make me confident in the safety provided by the ring-shaped structure.

Mazda frame info: http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/skyactiv/platform/skyactiv-body.html

I am not an engineer, so hopefully someone with more knowledge can chime in.
 

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Possibilities such as this are why I just got the wife a 2011 Foz. She travels the FL Turnpike late at night (night-shift nurse). She has been in 2 fairly serious altercations, 1 from a blown tire, and the other due to another driver's negligence.
 

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The Mazda sky-activ body uses 4 rings of reinforcement. I know the 2003 forester (first Subaru to use the modern ring shaped reinforcement design in the US IIRC) used 5 rings, and my guess it has only gone up from there. However that isn't a direct comparison as alloys, creation method (hot pressed, welded, maybe cold forged in the future, etc) are just as important. I think the fact that they had to update 2013 to 2014 shows that the basis is not as strong as what Subaru can do. It is also fair to note Subaru has been advancing this design for over a decade, vs the brand new sky-activ chassis. Experience does make a difference.
 
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