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We find it frustrating that our '15 doors need two presses of the fob button to unlock all the doors. Is there a way to make it happen with one press?
Must be a dangerous place, that Japan, that they need to rig the cars to fend off would be attackers by not unlocking the cars. This isn't the first one that worked that way and for us it's a negative feature.

 

[Botnik]

On the 2018 it is configurable whether to unlock the driver's door only or all doors on the first press. I don't know about the 2015. Your manual should say. On the 2018 it is configurable by the dealer unless you have the trim level that has a particular display so you can configure it yourself.

 

[titleman]

Must be a dangerous place, that Japan, that they need to rig the cars to fend off would be attackers by not unlocking the cars.

No Japan is very safe. I have a feeling they are built for USA shipment. I know I've been in a number of places where it's very appreciated.

 

[Yoda_One]

On the 2018 it is configurable whether to unlock the driver's door only or all doors on the first press. I don't know about the 2015. Your manual should say. On the 2018 it is configurable by the dealer unless you have the trim level that has a particular display so you can configure it yourself.

The 2015 is the same.

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@Yoda_One
The '15 owners manual states that the configurable on board lock settings are for push button start models, so N/A.

 

[adc]

I find it strange that pressing once or twice (choosing an option) is an annoyance. I for one appreciate the option.

The forester is my wife's car and I feel it increases her safety. And when I drive alone. Seems silly to unlock all doors. If there is a passenger I make the extreme effort to press the button twice.:shrug:

 

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I find it strange that pressing once or twice (choosing an option) is an annoyance. I for one appreciate the option.

The forester is my wife's car and I feel it increases her safety. And when I drive alone. Seems silly to unlock all doors. If there is a passenger I make the extreme effort to press the button twice.:shrug:

Another point of view....pressing twice is twice the wear on the FOB which is a PIA to get replaced with the chipped key.
Also, many times the passengers are standing at the door saying "open the door, it cold or raining or...".
It's my wife's car and she hates the restricted feature.

We are never at a location where security is of concern and besides I don't like having decisions made for me, especially when I've paid for a product.

Case in point, do I wear a motorcycle helmet, yes. Do I want the government to tell me that I have to? NO.
Do I wear a seat belt, yes. Do I want to be treated like an idiot and have an unenforceable law that says I have to? NO.
Am I smart enough not to put my hand under a running lawnmower, of course, we all are, right?. Do I want to have the burden to have to restart the mower every time I let go of the safety lever because apparently someone thinks there are a few dumbies who might put their hands under there when it's running? NO.

So that's the point. Everyone has the option to like the feature, or not, but we should be the ones to decide for ourselves, not the company that collected the $35k.

 

[bbottomley]

Tomorrow this thread is going to be merged into the existing Irreconcilable Differences thread on the subject. So don't be surprised when it no longer shows up here.

Two-click key fob unlock – Love it or hate it?

 

[Botnik]

pressing twice is twice the wear on the FOB

I haven't looked in my 2018 fob but I'd expect it's simple to solder a new switch under the button, just like you would do with eg a worn-out switch on a computer mouse.

If you don't want to do that, you go onto Amazon or wherever and order a new fob from Denso or whoever makes it, the model number is already on your fob, and you snap off the Subaru logo from your current fob and snap it onto the new one, and get your car to learn the new fob. Done. Note that I've never actually had to order replacement fobs, but this is the route I'd go, and I'd expect it to work.

More important than the fob though, is that the double unlocking wears out the solenoids in the car. In my 2007 I chose to unlock/unlock the driver's door only with the first press. I believe choosing between the driver only, or all doors, for the first press, was configurable, but I don't remember how, or maybe it was configurable by the dealer. The car did not have pushbutton start or keyless entry. In my 2018 I choose to lock/unlock the driver's door only with the first press.

The wear and tear is as follows: If you need to lock/unlock the driver's door twice to actuate all the other doors, there is double the wear on the solenoid in the driver's door. Mine eventually failed in my 2007 and I had to order it, and the dealership got me the wrong part, so I was using a mechanical key to lock/unlock and arm/disarm for a week and a half while I waited for parts. And I was driving around with my door all apart. I think the solenoid was about $70 CAD and an hour or two to open up the door and replace it. However, if you are usually the only one using the car, actuating all of the solenoids in the car puts extra wear on all of the other solenoids.

If you need to replace the switch in the fob, it's a couple bucks and a few minutes to replace it. It's a lot less work than replacing the solenoid in the door, and replacing the solenoid is not a big deal either.

And it's not exactly "twice" the wear. You may need to unlock twice, but when you lock, it's a single press that locks everything, and if you are the only one in the car, actuating all of the solenoids causes some wear to all of them even if only the driver's door needs to be locked.

And if you use the sensor on the door handle (if equipped) to lock/unlock, you don't wear out the fob at all.

 

[wbdubya]

Tomorrow this thread is going to be merged into the existing Irreconcilable Differences thread on the subject. So don't be surprised when it no longer shows up here.

Two-click key fob unlock – Love it or hate it?

I just voted on a 2012 poll. Hate it!

 

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Botnik,

I was writing about twice the wear on the unlock button, but you make a good point about the driver's door solenoid.
As for the door sensor, we don't have the keyless doodad option so no door sensor.
So it appears we're stuck with the '15 designer's short shortsightedness.
Nothing more to be said about it other than join in on the poll.

Thanks for the information.
Over and out,