I have a friend who works for ODOT ( Oregon Department of Transportation) and operates a sander/plow in winters over the Siskiyou Summit on I5 in southern Oregon. I asked him several years ago which vehicles have the most issues every winter when crossing the highest pass on I5. There was no hesitation in his response, " Old men driving 4X4 pickups and Subaru owners". Well I'm an old man who sold his 4X4 pickup and bought a Forester but understand that tires, conditions and common sense play the biggest role in bad weather driving. The common reply from the old men was they have been driving this way for years and never had a problem. The Subaru drivers stated the they were under the impression that Subarus will go anywhere under any condition! Advertising is a two edged sword.