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Wow !
No wonder Alan Mulally is kicking their but.
 

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But on the other hand..this shows the dumbing down of the American people (drivers). Seriously...people will find a way to kill themselves with nerf foootball..... when does this stuff end? [/rant]
 

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Yup. Subaru will not fix heaters until someone looses a toe due to frostbite. :icon_biggrin:
 

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Yup. Subaru will not fix heaters until someone looses a toe due to frostbite. :icon_biggrin:
Good point. The correlation is obvious ! :icon_confused:
 

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But on the other hand..this shows the dumbing down of the American people (drivers). Seriously...people will find a way to kill themselves with nerf foootball..... when does this stuff end? [/rant]


^^ I agree with that. I can see how the whole Toyota thing with the pedal getting stuck or whatever happened could be a big deal, but many of times have I stopped a stalled car without power steering or brakes. But yet I see the other side, and how some people don't even know how to change a brake light bulb... Some people need to read a book and be more aware.
 

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But on the other hand..this shows the dumbing down of the American people (drivers). Seriously...people will find a way to kill themselves with nerf foootball..... when does this stuff end? [/rant]
That is definitely the truth.
 

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I'm curious as to what the big deal is. I don't think i've ever had a car that couldn't be turned from run to accessory while the car was being driven. :icon_confused:
 

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So they're saying that the key can turn by itself - under certain circumstances - without direct human intervention? Yeah, that's a big deal.
 

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any key can turn by itself if there's a big enough load (others on the ring) hanging off it at an angle...
 

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So they're saying that the key can turn by itself - under certain circumstances - without direct human intervention? Yeah, that's a big deal.
Oh, i guess I only read the first bit. Either way, not a big deal IMHO. If you're going fast enough to hit something you wouldn't need power steering and you're got one good push of the brakes before you run out of power steering. Should it be fixed? Yeah, but I don't know if I see it as a big deal.

I had a cruise control cable that frayed and would get stuck at WOT one time. Happened on a 12 hour drive though the mountains. It was annoying, but I never felt like my life was threatened.
 

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But on the other hand..this shows the dumbing down of the American people (drivers). Seriously...people will find a way to kill themselves with nerf foootball..... when does this stuff end? [/rant]
This isn't a new thing... It's just more publicized when people make mistakes in frequent years.
 

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On scale, markets and corporate culture

Generally we all like our Subarus for one or more reasons, but keep in mind they're a mass market vehicle manufacturer just like any other and subject to similar economic pressures and labyrinthine bureaucratic decision-making processes and human behavior failings that both help and hinder any vehicle manufacturer getting good, reliable, trouble-free products to market.

Aforementioned said, I believe the fundamental differentiating factor that seems to work in Subaru's favor in consumer perception and experience of the brand is their relative small size as an industrial concern and low volume total output. For example, the combined total number of Subaru cars sold in any given year across the entire globe is less the number of Ford F-150 and Chevrolet Silverado pickup trucks sold in North America alone.

Scale, quantity and full-participation in as many accessible markets as possible dramatically increases the potential problems an auto manufacturer faces in bringing trouble-free product to market. Subaru is spared the scale of these challenges at the moment because they are still a niche car company but, if they continue to increase sales and grow market share at their present rate, they, too, will eventually encounter the same brutally tough pressures and experience the same problems as the big players.

Food for thought when you're denigrating another's brand's vehicles for alleged and real shortcomings.

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I heard about this! I told my boyfriend (who knows nothing about cars whatsoever, but really likes GM for some odd reason), and he joked that it must have been a Toyota saboteur... lol.

Still, it's a good motivation for me not to keep too many keys on my key ring! :p I have four - my house keys (there are 2), my locker key, and my car key, haha - and that's all I need. Seems like these ignition switches were REALLY touchy, though, and would turn at the drop of a hat!
 

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Seems like rather than recalling cars, it would be cheaper to issue these for free by sending them by mail, but I could be wrong.



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Food for thought when you're denigrating another's brand's vehicles for alleged and real shortcomings.

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Took in both of our Legacy-platform cars for a brake line corrosion recall...

The real take from the story is that car companies have a tendency to poo-poo these matters until the poo-poo meets the ventilator.
 
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