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Being fast in a manual car takes skill, 4EAT has the advantage of you not having to shift so you don't get off-boost.

I wouldn't worry too much about practicing 3 second 0-60 pulls. Just keep practicing getting smoother. Use gas mileage as an indicator of your good driving, the smoother you are the better the mileage will be.

Your car should be fast. Faster than most cars on this board. Keep it in one piece and stay safe, it's a big responsibility driving a car that fast on the street.

Stan
 

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At 20g levels, I bet the AT is easier to get fast 0-60 and 1/4 mile runs. In an MT 1st is so short it is almost useless and it is hard to not hit the rev limiter. 2nd goes by quick too and you need to be good to go from 1-2-3 really smooth. In an AT all you have to do is floor it and hold on!
 

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At 20g levels, I bet the AT is easier to get fast 0-60 and 1/4 mile runs. In an MT 1st is so short it is almost useless and it is hard to not hit the rev limiter. 2nd goes by quick too and you need to be good to go from 1-2-3 really smooth. In an AT all you have to do is floor it and hold on!
Yes the autos are easier. I am wanting a 6 speed car myself.

Im interested to see what it does tuned. A local has a 20g on his 06 sti and it pulls good, but not as good as the other guy with a twin scroll 35r!
 

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to answer some of the questions on here...

it has an open source tune from Yimi Sport tuning in Santa clarita and yes it will smoke a stock M5 (not that i would know :lol:)
 

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You know after reading this whole thread the one bit of advice that seems the most prudent
to me is....maybe consider getting rid of the 20g and downgrading your turbo?

I don't know what the costs associated with this would be and how much you could get for
the 20g to offset some of the costs?
 

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damu, I was thinking the SAME thing the whole time I've been reading this thread. No offense, but even I wouldn't really want a 20G, much less if I wasn't experienced with AWD and Subaru's trannys.

Lots of good advice in here. You should really take a year or more to truly learn all the ins and outs and quirks of the subie tranny before you even think about launching it. Ever read all the "subaru glass tranny" posts over on Nasioc? Lots of guys, many with more experience than you, broke their trannies thinking they could get away with not knowing them, beating on them, etc. But I think everyone here's put the fear of G-d in you regarding your weaksauce tranny. Remember, those "glass tranny" threads were from people with stock power, not freagin' rockstar 20G turbos! :Banane36:

BTW, those videos were with meth (in addition to gas) and tuned to 20+psi. Your car isn't THAT but it will absolutely smoke a stock STi and many other cars as attested. VERY dangerous, please take heed to what we're whining about :) And as for trannies - if you have time to hold out and do all (and I mean ALL) the labor yourself, you might could score all the 6sp stuff needed for $3-4k. But if you have a 20G, I'd be considering a PPG gearset (hardened).

Off-topic, I think bacon time is over. As someone else said, not kosher for passover!
 

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I can agree with the 2 guys above. A car is dangerous. Someone as young as you are doesn't have the experience yet, and as we all know when we were young, we did some stupid ****. Granted, my dumb choices were in a fwd with 115hp.
 

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BTW, many of us speak from experience. I totalled my first car when I was 16, two months after I got it. It wasn't exactly my fault but it sort of was (long story, a combination of circumstances). Before graduating highschool I nearly totalled another car and had a couple of bump-ups that weren't as bad - but any of them could have been life ending!

Even at 23 I nearly ended my life and others around me. Came across a hill into a 90 degree turn too fast (like I did every day), pavement was slick (from fog), and went sideways down the road with three oncoming cars nearly kissing my back bumper, then over-corrected and did a 270 into a gravel bank on the other side of the road. Praise G-d all I had to show was some gravel stuck in my rim. If one of those cars had been 5 seconds slower, it would have been over.

That was my last big screw-up long ago. Stuff like that can happen in a car whether it's fast or not, but speed/power increases your chances of losing what little control you have in all those potentially fatal situations and the chances of putting yourself into them. At least for most of us drivers who really enjoy driving. I guess you could say it's something that's against you in thos "combination of circumstance" moments that you won't always know are coming at you but you can often put yourself in.

You've got nice car, take care of it, and take care of yourself bud!
 

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The problem is that, regardless the car, if you don't have experience you never know you are going to lose control until its too late.

An FXT with a 20g mod isn't the vehicle to learn on.
 

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I appreciate all the concern and while you guys may think I'm going to go out and push this car - be at at the track or illegal street racing - my intentions are not so. It's a daily driver, it sounds nice, looks nice, is safe, drives nice, and does have power (not like I would know..) but I'm honestly trying to keep the crap that I had done before to a minimum.

This may sound stupid but now that I'm paying all my expenses (gas, insurance, matenience, etc.) I really am taking it easy. I can't afford tickets, or wasting gas, or breaking anything out of stupidity. I have rules: no eating in the Foz, no speeding in the Foz, no letting other idiots (kids) drive the Foz, don't crash the Foz, and I get a gold star every time I can get 300 miles on a tank of gas (in my head) :biggrin:

After reading what I said can somebody now tell me why I should get rid of the 20G? It's expensive, obviously, but I'm sure I'll be able to handle / appreciate it someday in the not-too-distant-future!
 

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......granted, my dumb choices were in a fwd with 115hp.
Back when I was 18, I did jail time and had my license revoked for 6 months for the crap I did in a 93hp Dodge Shadow. I would be dead right now if I would have had a stock XT. lol. It's amazing how much you can mature after spending thousands in tickets, and some time in jail. Not fun, but needless to say I "grew up quick".

SnoShado, sounds like your head is in the right place, and I congratulate you on doing so. It's good that you realize you have to pay for it all, make you appreciate it more. :biggrin:
 

· Smooshed FOTY 2011
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The problem is that, regardless the car, if you don't have experience you never know you are going to lose control until its too late.

An FXT with a 20g mod isn't the vehicle to learn on.
NOT true. Doesn't matter what you start out with, as long as you have the correct mindset of wanting to learn how to drive it properly, you'll be fine.

I relate the scrutiny that SnoShado is going through now to the scrutiny that I went through when I told everyone on my motorcycle forums that I bought a 600RR sportbike to learn on as my first motorcycle. I had pages of people telling me that I was wrong, that I would kill myself, that I would crash immediately etc. etc. Only a handful of people actually encouraged me to get into the correct mindset of wanting to learn how to ride correctly, the mindset that if I misbehave, the bike would misbehave back with undesirable consequences. As long as SnoShado has the mindset that he described earlier, he'll do just fine.
 

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....Also, SnoShado, I would PM a mod to have this thread renamed to "My new 20G Awesomeness" and moved. Then start a different thread later on as your actual Journal once everyone (including me) can digest the fact that a 19-year high schooler has one of the most powerful cars on this forum. :biggrin:
 
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