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Hi,

The autodimming rearview mirror on my 02 Forester is broken. I would like to replace it with a manual rearview mirror. I am no mechanic or electrician so I have a couple of questions before I order the parts.

1) Can I reuse the base that is currently attached to the windshield glass? Or must I order a new mirror base part # 92031FC000 i.e. will the current base for the autodimming mirror also fit the manual replacement mirror part # X9201FC000?

2) Must I order a replacement spring part # 92031FC020? Subaru appear to indicate the spring cannot be reused. But will the spring bend/break when I remove the broken mirror?

3) Can I safely leave the disconnected power cable hanging or should I remove the map light panel and pull the cable inside the roof trim - is it unsafe to leave the power cable hanging otherwise?

Thank you for your advice.
 

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Hi,

The autodimming rearview mirror on my 02 Forester is broken. I would like to replace it with a manual rearview mirror. I am no mechanic or electrician so I have a couple of questions before I order the parts.

1) Can I reuse the base that is currently attached to the windshield glass? Or must I order a new mirror base part # 92031FC000 i.e. will the current base for the autodimming mirror also fit the manual replacement mirror part # X9201FC000?

2) Must I order a replacement spring part # 92031FC020? Subaru appear to indicate the spring cannot be reused. But will the spring bend/break when I remove the broken mirror?

3) Can I safely leave the disconnected power cable hanging or should I remove the map light panel and pull the cable inside the roof trim - is it unsafe to leave the power cable hanging otherwise?

Thank you for your advice.
1. The autodim mirror base is the same from what I have been able to tell when I changed mine. When you add the homelink mirror you have to add a metal base adapter that fits over the standard base.

2. Not sure about the spring, but it cannot be much $.

3.I would remove the map lights, this is very easy, and unplug the wire that feeds down to the autodim mirror. It is a plug and play item. Everything should be accessable when you remove the map lights and the wire just feeds down past the headliner and windshield.
 

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Thanks for your advice!

Thanks Hot09XT for your advice. I figure an OEM replacement manual mirror should share the same camlock slide so ought to just go right into the current base. I called the parts department at my local Subaru dealer this morning and they quoted $66 for the mirror alone. I figure I'll try subaruparts.com and order the spring too just in case as the dealer doesn't have any of the parts in stock so if I do end up breaking the spring taking off the old mirror my wife would kill me :icon_biggrin:

Toddlamp - there's a smudgy brown blob obscuring the center of the mirror, which appears to match some of the pictures I've seen on this forum of broken auto-dimming mirrors. I'm not sure if the electrochromatics can be fixed, I'd like to keep the compass if it can.
 

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Thanks Hot09XT for your advice. I figure an OEM replacement manual mirror should share the same camlock slide so ought to just go right into the current base. I called the parts department at my local Subaru dealer this morning and they quoted $66 for the mirror alone. I figure I'll try subaruparts.com and order the spring too just in case as the dealer doesn't have any of the parts in stock so if I do end up breaking the spring taking off the old mirror my wife would kill me :icon_biggrin:

Toddlamp - there's a smudgy brown blob obscuring the center of the mirror, which appears to match some of the pictures I've seen on this forum of broken auto-dimming mirrors. I'm not sure if the electrochromatics can be fixed, I'd like to keep the compass if it can.
Ok. If you decide to not keep it, I would be more than willing to take it off your hands.
 

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I have my OEM mirror in my garage if you want it. I might even have the spring. Free if you pay for shipping! :smile:
Smooth, thanks for your kind offer, pls check your inbox.
 

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Can you post a pic of the base on the windscreen? It should be standard but it would be good to double check.
 

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I have a standard mirror. How many of you have replaced with the auto dimming/compass unit?
 

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Can you post a pic of the base on the windscreen? It should be standard but it would be good to double check.
When I get the spring then I'll take off the old mirror - not going to do it until I have the means to fix it, Subaru say it's a consumable single use item. When I do the replacement I'll take a photo of the base and post it here.
 

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Sounds good, I've reused the spring and also used new ones, while I haven't had an issue reusing it does get bent slightly so that's a good idea. No point in messing with it till you need to. I have two standard mirrors in my collection :)
 

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I'm about as cheap as it gets so when I decided to add self dimming mirrors (no compass) to my '01 Forester and my '02 Outback I bought used mirrors on ebay. One mirror came from a Cadillac ($6 + shpg) and the other came out of a Buick ($14 inc. postage). I had to use a mount adapter and I used t-connectors to get power. They work great! ...and more important, they were cheap.
 

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The junkyard near me in Jessup, MD (Crazy Rays) charges $5 for a mirror regardless of what it can do. That's where I get all my stuff. Mostly all of those self dimming mirrors are all the same and you just have to A) FInd a way to mount them, and B) Provide power and ground, that's it. IF you want to take it a step further you also give it a ground to reverse (but that's not required)
 

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Done it

I got the parts and replaced the mirror today. I'm glad that was pretty easy even for a total non-mechanic like me.

Thanks for the heads up about Crazy Rays Toddlamp - is that a junkyard where you climb over the cars and remove the parts yourself or do you ask them to remove the parts for you. $5 sounds very reasonable for a mirror, I paid $30 for the mirror and $5 for the spring clip from Subaruparts.com.

Unfortunately I did not find my camera and Dad has borrowed my cell phone while he is out of town on business so I could not take a picture. I can confirm my 2002 Forester has a camlock base attached to the windshield which is interchangeable with the retaining stud on the back of OEM Subaru manual mirror part # X9201FC000. As others have pointed out you would likely need an adapter that would fit a camlock base if you were to replace the auto dimming mirror with a non OEM Subaru part.

I ordered spring clip part # 92031FC020 just in case I broke/bent the old one taking off the broken mirror, but I was able to remove the broken mirror without damaging the old spring clip. The procedure was pretty straightforward, first I unplugged the power cable at the back of the mirror, then twisted the mirror 90 degrees anti clockwise and pulled down. With the loose power cable hanging down I used a trim removal tool to take off the clock housing and unplugged the power cable inside - it is a simple plug and play connector so no cable cutting was necessary. I unthreaded the power cable through the roof lining which was a bit tricky because the cable connector is a bit chunky and I wanted to avoid tearing or damaging the trim, but with a trim removal tool I was able to prise up the roof trim and pull it out without damage.

Thanks for everyone's advice. I don't have a compass on the mirror now, but I'm hoping the work I'm doing fixing the car will put me in the wife's good books enough so she will buy me a GPS for Christmas :)
 

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Well actually they have both there but the part that pulls the parts for you is much more expensive (it's called Fremont). Crazy Ray's is right next door and you pay $1 to get in and have at it. They have a parts list with prices on it. It's located just south of the Rt 1 & 175 intersection in Jessup, MD.
 

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Thanks for the address Toddlamp, brings back memories of growing up in England. I got my first car at 17, a beat up 1975 Ford Escort in brown - it was not an ex-rally car so it hadn't had the engine thrashed to within an inch of its life. I needed an indicator stalk so I visited a nearby junkyard and climbed gingerly into the bottom car of a four car stack, moving very carefully so as not to move the other three cars piled on top, pulled off the steering column housing and unplugged the indicator unit. I recall there was black oil everywhere on the ground, which stuck to my sneakers. You think you're indestructible when you're 17.
 

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Thanks for the address Toddlamp, brings back memories of growing up in England. I got my first car at 17, a beat up 1975 Ford Escort in brown - it was not an ex-rally car so it hadn't had the engine thrashed to within an inch of its life. I needed an indicator stalk so I visited a nearby junkyard and climbed gingerly into the bottom car of a four car stack, moving very carefully so as not to move the other three cars piled on top, pulled off the steering column housing and unplugged the indicator unit. I recall there was black oil everywhere on the ground, which stuck to my sneakers. You think you're indestructible when you're 17.
Haha, damn. Luckily Crazy Ray's is not such a scary place. The worst stuff you'll have to deal with are cars jacked up on 4-high tire stacks from when someone wanted to get the transmission out.
 
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