Seems like I saw something on a show where they testeed those and found they really didnt work all that well (possibly at all).
I remember that too.
^ Duderotomy's got it - it was home-made methods, and yes, it was as thebeephaha remembered, Mythbusters.I didn't think they tested the laser jammers... I remember them testing a whole pile of other DIY methods though.
^ Whoa, happy shopping! :smile:Just ordered CB radio/antenna, VEIL, LaserShield, and a GPS module for my BlackBerry for Trapster :biggrin::biggrin:
The Cheetah products basically are dedicated fixed-threat announcers, taking advantage of GPS technology to "smartly" forewarn you of such hazards.Looks like I'll be getting a CB radio setup, GPS module for my BB, and perhaps a SpeedCheetah as well. Oh boy.
What exactly does Cheetah do, does it just alert the driver when the driver approaches a speed/red-light camera that is in its database? Who maintains the database?
Yep.Jeez, there is a WEALTH of information on RD.net, I could spend a week on it just reading. It is kind of annoying that I can't look at thumbnails yet since I don't have 15 posts though (reading is enough for now...there's so much information).
No need to thank me - just glad to help our little community here. :smile:Wow, Tsi+WRX that was a lot of great information, thanks for the writeup!
Honestly, I don't know - it's a theory posed by some in the community with electrical/engineering backgrounds, and I'm merely repeating it, as it, currently, without testing, at least sounds plausible. For whatever reason, that bit of paradox exists - we've seen the a dual-head standard system protect even full-sized SUVs and trucks, providing true-JTG performance, and we've also seen the HP variant kick-butt on both ultra-large RVs and various industrial vehicles (from the extreme tall-roofline of various European "delivery vans" to the wide behemoth that's typical of Stateside "flatbed" industrial trucks). Yet, we've seen HPs present with "holes" on average-sized passenger vehicles. :shrug:I don't have the funds to do another LI setup in the rear yet but it's definitely something to think about. I had never heard about the point about the HP heads potentially being less effective on standard passenger vehicles, that's quite interesting. Does this depend on where you tap in for power (speaking of which, where did you tap for power) or is it simply because the electrical system on a passenger car can't keep up with the HP heads?
What exactly is "true JTG" vs "effective JTG"? Also, I was thinking about my antenna setup...I need it to be easily removable for the garage, as the CB will only be used on long trips. I want to have the antenna mounted on the roof, with the coaxial coming out of the top of the lift gate. Would it be possible to put a coaxial coupler by the headliner, so I wouldn't have to tear through my interior each time to remove the antenna, or would that affect receiving/transmitting quality? I'm quite excited for the CB setup :biggrin:^ Whoa, happy shopping! :smile:
To get the best out of your CB, scour the RD.net sub-Forums for both CB-lingo (unless you're a trucker, yourself, or have had such interactions in the past) and etiquette.
For the VEIL and LaserShield, remember, they're "point defenses." Since you're already searching there, you'll see my analogy of those items as, effectively, shields that cover a select portion of your body from, say, incoming arrows. :wink: That's essentially a very accurate description. Know what they can, and cannot, do. :smile:
For Trapster, remember that it's biggest and greatest capability is in the live-reporting of active traps. It's shortcoming, unfortunately, is also "community based," in that there's much less filtering on its information. Thus, marked locations may or may not be accurate, and threats may be nonexistent or may be more threatening than what is marked - essentially, this is where the Cheetah products come in to their own.
The Cheetah products basically are dedicated fixed-threat announcers, taking advantage of GPS technology to "smartly" forewarn you of such hazards.
Unlike most GPS-based POI programs for various nav/phone devices, the Cheetah products are capable of processing direction-of-travel and how that may affect threat presentation.
If you live or commute through fixed-camera threat areas, the Cheetah products and others like it (i.e. NavAlert, as well as the integrated-with-detector products from Cobra and Escort) can be a big bonus, both in terms of keeping you out of trouble with the law, as well as actually enhancing your true safety by notifying you of such monitored areas, which, thanks to the all-too-human way in which many of us react upon seeing signs of such "Red Light Camera Monitored Intersection" or the like, do present as statistical blips in terms of accidents, too.
The Cheetah database is proprietary, named Trinity. SpeedCheetah's fanatical principles maintains the database to near-perfection, and responds very rapidly to user-reported changes, but only after authenticated/vouched verification, which is what makes their database so much more trustworthy than that of those maintained by the community at-large. Trinity is so highly regarded in the industry that Escort/Bel licenses its base use as their own proprietary Defender Database.
Like the old saying goes, it's like drinking from a fire hose.
But stick with it, take it easy - when I started back in the community in '06, after having taken some 4 years or so "off," I literally lurked and read for something like 2 months, before making my first post (back then, there wasn't that stupid 15-posts minimum). Even so, I still made a very, very "green" first post there. :biggrin:
There's indeed *a lot* of good information, but there's also quite a bit of noise to filter, too. Kinda like searching for things via NASIOC.
You've gotta take the good with the bad.
No need to thank me - just glad to help our little community here. :smile:
Although the speed-detection countermeasures hobbyist/enthusiast community is filled with good people, the industry, sadly, is one that is often backstabbing and untrustworthy (with the exception of a few noted individuals). As I've said elsewhere, my aim in being present on various Subaru Forums is to help shield my fellow Subaru lovers from the "badness" that's in the undertow of the speed-detection countermeasures world: to help my fellow Scooby enthusiasts spend their money more wisely.
Honestly, I don't know - it's a theory posed by some in the community with electrical/engineering backgrounds, and I'm merely repeating it, as it, currently, without testing, at least sounds plausible. For whatever reason, that bit of paradox exists - we've seen the a dual-head standard system protect even full-sized SUVs and trucks, providing true-JTG performance, and we've also seen the HP variant kick-butt on both ultra-large RVs and various industrial vehicles (from the extreme tall-roofline of various European "delivery vans" to the wide behemoth that's typical of Stateside "flatbed" industrial trucks). Yet, we've seen HPs present with "holes" on average-sized passenger vehicles. :shrug:
Certainly, having good, clean power source and ground is necessary.
Since I support so much gadgetry, I've tapped a hard-line directly through the firewall, via an existing grommet, to the battery. :icon_redface: