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I was just wondering how Subaru compare's to other companies ? I've had my Forester for a few years so awd not new to me . I've just noticed lately how many companies offer some form AWD car in their lineup (new and old). Volvo , Suzuki , Ford , SAAB , Chevy (well, trucks/suv) , Honda/Acura SH , Audi , Bmw etc. How do they stack up to our Subaru's ?

Rich

PS- sorry if this has been covered before , I'm new here. I did search though, got nothin'
 

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Can of worms man... can of worms.. lol

Highly subjective. You will not get a definite answer and asking on a Subie board will only get what you expect.
 

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Driving in the rain today, it made me think. I drove both my Forester and my Matrix... my Forester with UHP Summer tires won't lose any traction from my driving and throttling styles while my Matrix with meaty Michellin Exalto A/S under the same conditions like to do tire spins in place. Man I can't imaging another FWD in the family... AWD also just holds the line so much better.

I also recall a discussion on Edmunds where these guys started out worshiping Honda's SH-AWD and Audi's Quattro, and then in the end they couldn't imagine anything else besides Subaru's AWD lol. CONVERTED!
 

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I figured the subject might have been beaten to death. I also knew that most info would be biased. What I was hoping for was maybe some kind of info from magazine or tv show testing (not that they can't be bias).

Thanks for posting the vid .Pretty interesting , but at the end the Subaru dealership jingle is gross.
 

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From personal experience; Premium awd system = Audi (better than BMW/Benz etc)
Economy awd system = Subaru (better than volvo, ford, chrysler etc).
 

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Yes, Subaru is the best in its price class. And in all practicality for 75% of situations most people typically encounter, it will serve the driver just as well as the so called premium systems with Torsen diff's or whatever. I'll put a Subaru against an Audi in the snow or off-road,any day.
 

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Yes, Subaru is the best in its price class. And in all practicality for 75% of situations most people typically encounter, it will serve the driver just as well as the so called premium systems with Torsen diff's or whatever. I'll put a Subaru against an Audi in the snow or off-road,any day.
I prefer the Subbie to the Audi myself as well. But the Audi is far more refined and luxurious where the subaru is more practical.

I think in a comp test, they do equally well. They are both solid and reliable.
 

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Aren't Subaru's AWD systems different in the manual vs. auto cars? May depend on the transmission. But, in any case, it's hard to beat Subaru's AWD systems, especially for the money.

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From personal experience; Premium awd system = Audi (better than BMW/Benz etc)
Economy awd system = Subaru (better than volvo, ford, chrysler etc).
Agree 100%...IMHO the AUDI seemed to me a little bit better in snow/rain than the Forester. But I wouldn't take the Audi offroad...just didn't fit that role.
 

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I drove a bunch of stuff in the market segment before I bought my Fozzie and what I can tell you is the full time nature of the AWD is what sold me. Nothing else I drove (and I test drove in some PRETTY SKETCHY weather - freezing rain on top of accumulated snow) gave me the sure-footedness of the Impreza that I originally PLANNED on buying. In the Toyotas, (RAV and Matrix AWD) I could feel the vehicle START to get squirrely and THEN the AWD would kick in. By the time the system reacted, I was ALREADY reacting (after 10 years of driving Jeep Cherokees which are NOTORIOUSLY lousy on ice you pay a LOT of attention to traction) to traction loss and may have been minimizing the effectiveness of the system.

With the Subaru, I just point and go. No questions. I OFTEN find myself looking at the speedo as I'm taking tight downhill offramps saying "wow, I REALLY should have bled off more speed" with ZERO ill effects SO FAR. Still haven't had the traction control kick in a single time. THAT says a lot.

Haven't taken an Audi, Bimmer, Benz or Volvo AWD out though so I can't comment.
 

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Agreed. The "reactive AWD" systems that run as FWD until they detect wheel slip or spin and only then divert torque are sub-optimal, IMHO. By the time they divert torque, driving stability and control have already been compromised.
 

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Can of worms man... can of worms.. lol

Highly subjective. You will not get a definite answer and asking on a Subie board will only get what you expect.
Pretty much. My 2 cents: If you live in an area where you can encounter all sorts of dicey road conditions any time of year (or take it off-road), then Subaru offers a good solution with always-on AWD, at a slight mileage penalty. If you only encounter some slop in winter and are not averse to putting on winter tires for three-five months, then most other systems will be fine, but there is sometimes a delay in the system reaction time depending on the hardware and software.
 

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My 2003 AT understeers horribly. I haven't driven other AWD cars but its the only negative against the Suburu that I see. It would be nice if the AWD system was rear bias but I may be in the minority.
 
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