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I'm planning on a trip into the Sierras of CA and was wondering if anybody knows if the Geolanders would pass during a r-2 chain control? Has anybody ever had to pass through a chain inspection w/the Geo's and did they make you chain up?

R-1: Chains are required on all commercial vehicles (trucks or buses). All other vehicles (cars, pick-ups, vans, etc.) must have either snow tread tires or chains on the drive axle.
R-2: Chains are required on all vehicles except four-wheel drives with snow tread tires on all four wheels and provided that tire traction devices for at least one set of drive wheels are carried in or upon the vehicle.
R-3: Chains required - ALL VEHICLES- no exceptions
 

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Geos are M+S (should be shown on the sidewall) so you are good to go!

R-3: CHP usually just closes the road instead of going to this designation, or at the very least, they "escort" groups, usually following a snowplow.
 

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If you have G035 Geolandars like I [currently] do, you should consider carrying chains for your own safety even if you are not required to. I find that these tyres are just plain dangerous on snow. :eek: HTH

Suresh
 

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M+S tires with 6/32" tread depth, and AWD or 4WD is anough for R2 chain controls. Wheneveru I've been though R2 chain controls, M+S tires would have been enough on nearly any vehicle, had it been legal.

They often require you to carry chains. I sometimes carry chains from another car, not having any for my Forester. From the specs they're slightly too small, and likely wouldn't fit. When I bought my 2003, IIRC there was no tire chain approved for the rear. Is there now? Can you safely use chains only on the front in my 5-speed?

I could test the latter by installing chains, marking front & rear tires, and rolling though several revolutions. In R3 conditions (which I've never seen), they require them at all 4 corners anyway.
 

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I dont think the rolling diameter changes due to chains is going to cause a problem. Grip is that low that the non-chained tyres should be able to spin a bit.
 

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Didn't read the one critical bit of information you might want to consider...SOA doesn't recommend chains at all, and only recommends cables, on the front only (not enough room with rear suspension clearance).
I have them, but have never needed them...in Alaska, I've drug body parts in 10 inches of fresh fallen snow and not had problems without cables...even coming to a stop, and slowly reapplying throttle, the Forester simply pulls forward without spinning a bit.
I do run Hakapeliita 2 studded snows (self-cleaning directional design), and recommend them for fresh snow, packed snow, and black ice (cables might help here if you're in a life or death situation, but I can drive on the studdeds where I can't hardly walk).
 
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