Especially since the Yoko Geo is a fairly common tire (or was) on the SJ generation Forester 17" rims, just a different model (the all season vs the all terrain).
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horrible design imo. What is the point of that cladding? What does it accomplish? Most people (where I’m from at least) film their front ends, and this just makes it harder.
it looks terrible, serves no purpose ... and already dates the vehicle.
I can't wait to see what colors are available. I guess same as Outback Wilderness.
Why did you have to point that out?!?!?! LOL!
If the colors announced for the Japanese version are any indication, it will be. They switched Jasper Green for the Outback's Autumn Green. That makes the Forester have all the colors available to the Outback Wilderness. Considering they are using the same accent color (copper) and exclusive color (Geyser Blue), I expect it to be the same color options.
As to the cladding - many of those films won't protect a painted fascia from brush and twigs, but the black plastic cladding will at least hide that damage if it happens.
If you don't buy the Wilderness Edition, then you will not have the black cladding on the bumpers or the sides - you'll still have a painted front fascia (and rear) and a it will have a different look vs the Wilderness.
If you don't buy the Wilderness Edition, then you will not have the black cladding on the bumpers or the sides - you'll still have a painted front fascia (and rear) and a it will have a different look vs the Wilderness.
I totally agree with you.. hideous front end. They could have done better in style.
But as with every Subaru, they typically grow on you and one ends up really liking them. I like all the features it has.
It would have been nice if it had the Outback XT turbo motor, but this makes it much more affordable for everyone.
I'd like to see what one looks like in white.
What's a reasonable expectation for 0-60 on the Wilderness with the lower gearing? I tried to compare the Outback XT vs Wilderness trim (realizing it's a completely different engine) but I can't even find reliable 0-60 numbers for either model.
*Yes, I know the Forester isn't a sports car. But, I have a '14 Limited and I'm shopping for a newer car. The engine in my Forester is such a dog, I can barely pass someone with the a/c on.
*Yes, I know the Forester isn't a sports car. But, I have a '14 Limited and I'm shopping for a newer car. The engine in my Forester is such a dog, I can barely pass someone with the a/c on.
Looks like the Wilderness Edition of the Forester has less ground clearance than the Wilderness Edition of the Outback - 9.2" vs 9.5".
No idea really, but I'm being it will be a pretty noticable improvement.
While there may be lower gearing, the extra weight will probably negate any uptake in speed.
I don't really agree with you on the "dog slow" concept - I've had my 2014 Forester since new and have never had problems passing others when I need to - and living in the desert, my AC is on for a lot of the time behind the wheel.
I don't really agree with you on the "dog slow" concept - I've had my 2014 Forester since new and have never had problems passing others when I need to - and living in the desert, my AC is on for a lot of the time behind the wheel.
And the lower gearing will result in the torque converter not working as hard, resulting in cooler fluid temperatures before they get to the cooler. Once it's in lock up mode, then it would be the same as the regular CVT.
Even conventional automatics will overheat from working the TC by either a lot of low speed work, or towing a load.
My '99 Jeep XJ's AW4 got hot enough towing a trailer when my brother borrowed it, that it pushed the fluid out of the fill tube. Probably the only thing that saved it was that fluid was Redline's version of Dexron IIE. The fluid didn't get discolored at all from the heat, and all he did was top it off, and the transmission was fine after it cooled a bit. As far as I know, it's still going, as I sold it 6 years ago. I had over 100,000 miles on that fluid after that incident.
But CVT's are not unique to overheating. Maybe a little more prone? But it might be a factor of how much the TC is having to do.
Some more infos I was able to get for Canada:
- Front camera only for Wilderness
- Towing capacity increased only for the Wilderness
- Premier trim will now have DEL fog lights but not the same as Wilderness
- Driver Focus now also on Limited trim (including gestual)
Just noticed that apparently the Forester has different wheels even though they look very similar. Fortunately they don't suffer from the same problem.
The lack of power in my Forester is my #1 complaint about the car. I don't think I've owned a car this slow since the '80s. Oh, I just remembered that I actually had a 4 cyl Wrangler in the early 90's... that was slower.
probably.
I was okay with the power of the Forester while I had one. With that said, I won't get a car again with such a poor power-to-weight ratio. Was fine for commuting solo or at non-highway speeds. Load the family up for a weekend with bikes or boats on the roof and in the mountains? Multiple seconds full throttle, whole lot of noise, and a crawling speedometer. It was noticeable. Was it dangerous? No, but at the same time, I didn't like it. Others may disagree.
For me, a car that can do the 1/4 mile in the 15 second or so range appears to be my limit for the family vehicle, and with a turbo to help at elevation.
Anyone know yet what the front seat set up will be. Power, no power?
Outback Wilderness has 10 way and 8 way power seat adjustment.
I haven't been able to find any videos of the Forester Wilderness that talk about or get a shot of the driver's seat adjustment.
Outback Wilderness has 10 way and 8 way power seat adjustment.
I haven't been able to find any videos of the Forester Wilderness that talk about or get a shot of the driver's seat adjustment.
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