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Realizing I’m on a Forester fan forum, what are the advantages of a Forester over the Ford Edge? I think the Escape is more of a direct comparison but I don’t like it all that well. The Edge, I like. On the surface, the Edge is bigger in every way including price, but there are big incentives on the Edge and I can probably get it for about the price of a Forester Premium.
Is the Subie AWD system still superior? Don’t they both use clutch packs to vary power delivery to each wheel? Subie will do better on resale I’m certain: too many rental car Edges on the market. Particularly interested in ex-Ford owners who aren’t haters. (I’m coming out of a Fusion. The Edge and Fusion are built on the same platform).
I’m wanting a Subie but Ford has some easy money right now.
 

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OK...I'll give it a shot. Traded in a 2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid for the 19 Sport.

1. Resale on Ford's suck
2. There are BIG incentives on the vehicle for a reason:wink2:
3. Do your research...there is no better AWD system on the market than Subaru's Symmetrical system
4. Resale value on Subaru's is AMAZING and have one of the highest retained value ratings on the market
5. Not a Ford hater but not a huge Ford fan, although, the Fusion was a great car

IMPO, no comparison to the 19 Foz versus the Edge. Test drive both and check safety ratings and on-line reviews. To see how well the AWD system performs, there are a ton of comparisons and videos that show how just about every other vehicle gets stuck EXCEPT for a Subaru and a Jeep!

If you don't need a great AWD system and are OK with heavy depreciation on the Ford, then buy it...however, I think you'd be making a HUGE mistake and looking at short-term dollars versus long-term reliability and value! If you keep a car for more than 5 years...you DON'T want the Edge. My 2 cents:thumbsup:
 

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We still have a 2013 Ford Escape and bought a 2018 Forester Premium back in September which replaced a 2006 Hyundai Accent manual.
Since you are comparing Apples to Oranges I'll compare the 2013 Escape to the Forester 2018; although that's the wife's ride and the Forester is the first automatic that I use for my ride. The wife had automatic's and I always preferred manual shift. They did have a base 2018 Forester in manual but I would be facing divorce court.
The Forester seems higher even though the ground clearance is couple of inches higher that 2013 Escape. The seats are more comfortable in the Forester albeit the Escape has leather seating. The heat setting on the Forester is hi or low and the escape has a variable rheostat from low to high a plus for the Escape.
The Forester was easier to program the Garage Homelink that the Escape a plus for the Forester.
Both have CVT's to me so I am always feeling for the third pedal.
Gas milage at 1016 miles seems better but I have not done manual calculations but the green bar can help.

Better head room than the Escape and cargo space may be the same. The 2013 Escape came with interior LED's the Forester did not but I have upgraded that as I did in the Hyundai.
One down size beside bolt patterns is that the Tire size is not equal.
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Yea your experience on the Fusion is the same as mine I think. I have zero complaints about the car itself (except Sync 2. It will disconnect right in the middle of a phone call and USB connections for music are sketchy at best. Even with a licensed Apple lightning cable). A year into it, I was already at 50% depreciation for a trade when we had an awful winter in 2016/17. I've found some deals tonight where I can get a 2018 base Fusion AWD in the $22K range. Trying to hold tight and wait to get what I want!
 

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Two different cars. The Escape more closely competes with the forester. Obviously drive both.

Looks like handling on the Edge is not real good. Visibility is horrible on both (edge/escape).

If I were shopping again I wouldn't even consider either one. AWD on the Subaru is light years better than my old '08 subaru. Can't imagine the ford will be as good.

If I had to get rid of my Subaru I would opt for a demo BMW X3. Maybe look at the chevy equinox
 

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Having owned a couple Fords, their dealers and techs suck, can't fix problems that aren't text book cut and dry, don't treat customers with respect and quality is job meh. When I took my Ranger in for slight hesitation after doing everything under the sun possible to fix it myself, testing sensors, replacing cap/rotor, wires, ignition module, dealer couldn't fix it even after replacing ignition module with genuine Ford part.
When pressed for answers and proper fix, they just kinda said drives fine to me, have a nice day. Subarus not perfect, but thankfully much better than Ford.

Forgot to say that I've ridden in a couple friend's Escapes (which is closer to Forester than the Edge) and the interior is junky, cheap, non-ergonomic and made me want to escape the vehicle lol.

Friend owned new Focus couple years ago, that car had more weird noises in front end that the dealer never could figure out and was kinda cheap and non-ergo interior too, he traded it after couple years disappointment with the car and dealers.
 

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I'm the first to say that this is my last Ford but your complaint about dealers and techs is pretty far off the mark. It's not a Ford thing. Dealers are independant and techs vary in quality just like any other profession. It's like saying all teachers suck because you had a few bad ones.
 

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I've done a few thousand kilometers in an Edge, it's big comfy landboaty car, the cargo area will fit 4 people's international luggage easily with space to spare, ain't gonna happen in a Forester. Seat is also wide an soft, good for long trips.

That said I didn't like the throttle/steering/suspension tuning, it's very numb. Infotainment will show side cameras if you signal, except there's a 3 second delay so the image only shows up after lane change is complete. Unless I really need all that space I wouldn't pick Edge.
 

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I just traded in a 2014 Ford Fusion SE Hybrid on a new '18 Forester XT Touring. Did not even consider another Ford product.

This is the 4th Subaru ('08 Outback XT, '10 Impreza, '13 Outback) I have purchased (still have the Impreza and Outback in the family) so I may be a bit of a Subaru Homer but I have also owned other Ford products in the past ('94 Explorer, '02 Explorer, '06 Mountaineer). I own 2 Toyotas as well ('10 Tundra, '12 Highlander) and I'm just done with "American" car brands for now. Resale is lousy, the dealership experience is ho hum, reliability is second rate.

Drive them all but you won't go wrong selecting a Subaru.
 

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the edge is like a lincoln compared to the forester. people across the street had 2 edges. the 1st had major problems and the dealer worked out a deal on a newer higher end model and that had problems too but not as major as the first so they chucked it for a foz. than i liked it so that's how i ended up buying mine.
 

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Well this post is perfect for me to chime in on lol. I own a 2018 Forester XT and I am also a service advisor at a Ford dealership. Yes the incentives are great because ford is loosing sales to competitors due to reliability and resale value like other have said. First let’s talk about the awd system. The Edge is a fwd based truck with something called a PTU (power takeoff unit) versus actually having a transfer case which makes the vehicle technically a fwd until the PTU senses the need for additional traction and engages the clutches to then engage the rear wheels while subaru has a transfer case and the awd system is far superior and smarter then the Edge. Now let’s go with reliability. I get countless fairly new Edges coming in like someone mentioned before with mytouch/sync3 issues whereit will completely stop working and won’t respond to touch while the Subaru STARLINK system is not amazing but wayyyyyy better. Ford audio sounds way better even than the Harmon Kardon system. Interior quality is pretty good comparable to the Subaru. Power delivery is horrible imho while Subaru lacks in this department also but still better in general. Gas mileage is horrible if you do a lot of driving on the edge. Seats I feel are more comfortable. Customer service and subaru in general is much better to work with. And Ofcourse like mentioned before resale value is horrible. The current edge is a lot better looking than the 2019 but the Edge ST is tempting. If you do choose on getting the Edge I say lease it so you won’t have to deal with all the recalls it will have and reliability in the long term. End rant lmao.
 

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I own a 2018 Forester XT and I am also a service advisor at a Ford dealership.
Damn, do you have to park a block away at work? <img src="http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/images/SubaruForester_2014/smilies/tango_face_grin.png" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />
Lol nope right at the entrance
 

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Both are great vehicles for different reasons.

Personally the Forester has best in class AWD and outward visibility.

The rest really comes down to preferences.

How you like the seating position, how it drives, parks etc.

Are you leasing or purchasing? Plan on owning for a long or short period of time?

Basically, I’d prefer to have a vehicle that I’m comfortable and enjoyable driving experience.

I find domestic brands tend to deteriorate a bit after some time.

Suspension bits need replacement and the ride get a little sloppy.

What driving conditions will you experience? Winter snow and slush? Hills and country roads? Or interstate commutes.

The Edge is larger and more isolated. And that can be good in some circumstances.

Might be a little more money too.


Subie gets best in class fuel efficiency and the Edge isn’t that great so, fuel costs might be a factor depending on annual use.

Do you need the room? How often are the other seats or cargo area used?

We use the roof rack and pack two kids and two dogs and gear for 6 hours on the highway.

We enjoy the Forester very much.

Some folks complain about the CVT but, found the 2018 has programmed steps to mimick a traditional auto very well.


Good luck in what ever you decide.


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> Some folks complain about the CVT but, found the 2018 has programmed steps to mimick a traditional auto very well.

I don't understand why some people want this. It defeats some of the CVT's smooth power delivery and efficiency just to put in fake shift points so the drivers feels a "jerk". The "shift points" put more strain on the transmission parts. It's inefficient. Seems silly. BTW I've driven manual tranys all my life before buying the Forester. Thought I'd hate the CVT. I don't hate it at all. It keeps the engine at an optimum power curve all the time. Gas mileage is markedly improved and power doesn't suffer at all. The CVT also allows the cruise control to work so much better than with other transmission types.
 

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I can honestly compare both the Forester and Edge after owning both within the last 18 months. We needed a quick replacement for my wife's 07 Highlander AWD that was a rock solid vehicle. I convinced her to look at the 17 Edge SEL AWD. She was very critical of the outward visibility (wide A pillars, high hood, high window sills), overall size, and all the confusing controls. We bought it anyway but she never got comfortable in it and hated to drive it. Personally I liked the ample V6 power, quietness, smooth ride, and looks of the car...that's about it. She could never tell where the front end of the car was when parking, it got very poor mileage, and the seats were the most uncomfortable of any car I've ever owned. After 6 months we took a hosing on it and traded it in with only 1180 miles on it for our 18 Forester Premium. We love the Subie but it too has some issues I'm not fond of but it fits her needs so much better. Those faults are above average road and engine noise, a strange vagueness to the steering on mountain roads at speeds over 55, over sensitive throttle response from a dead stop, and lack of a decent center armrest. We both love the great outward visibility, simplicity of controls, the excellent mileage (22-23 city/30-33 highway). I have always been a Ford guy but have no regrets in getting rid of it. Both cars have their issues but the forums seem very unkind to the Edge as far as recurring problems and dependability goes. YMMV
 

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I can honestly compare both the Forester and Edge after owning both within the last 18 months. We needed a quick replacement for my wife's 07 Highlander AWD that was a rock solid vehicle. I convinced her to look at the 17 Edge SEL AWD. She was very critical of the outward visibility (wide A pillars, high hood, high window sills), overall size, and all the confusing controls. We bought it anyway but she never got comfortable in it and hated to drive it. Personally I liked the ample V6 power, quietness, smooth ride, and looks of the car...that's about it. She could never tell where the front end of the car was when parking, it got very poor mileage, and the seats were the most uncomfortable of any car I've ever owned. After 6 months we took a hosing on it and traded it in with only 1180 miles on it for our 18 Forester Premium. We love the Subie but it too has some issues I'm not fond of but it fits her needs so much better. Those faults are above average road and engine noise, a strange vagueness to the steering on mountain roads at speeds over 55, over sensitive throttle response from a dead stop, and lack of a decent center armrest. We both love the great outward visibility, simplicity of controls, the excellent mileage (22-23 city/30-33 highway). I have always been a Ford guy but have no regrets in getting rid of it. Both cars have their issues but the forums seem very unkind to the Edge as far as recurring problems and dependability goes. YMMV
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> Some folks complain about the CVT but, found the 2018 has programmed steps to mimick a traditional auto very well.



I don't understand why some people want this. It defeats some of the CVT's smooth power delivery and efficiency just to put in fake shift points so the drivers feels a "jerk". The "shift points" put more strain on the transmission parts. It's inefficient. Seems silly. BTW I've driven manual tranys all my life before buying the Forester. Thought I'd hate the CVT. I don't hate it at all. It keeps the engine at an optimum power curve all the time. Gas mileage is markedly improved and power doesn't suffer at all. The CVT also allows the cruise control to work so much better than with other transmission types.


Agree with your comments about the CVT. I’ve driven a few Nissan’s with CVTs and found they work very well.

However, many comment on CVTs negatively and thought I’d mention it.

I’ve found in the 2018 Forester, the shifts are smooth and the fuel efficiency on par with previous generations not equipped with the programming.

The only question remaining could be reliability. After 40k miles, no issues but, some folks belly ache and praise the 6MT, although Subie dropped the manual for 2019.


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I felt I had to chime in since I owned an '07 Edge for 6 years and then replaced it with a Forester, my first Subaru. I got a good deal on the Edge on Craiglist so I got a car with 10k miles that was 2 years old and loaded for 20k. The only option it didn't have was AWD and we had a few bad winters back to back and it was terrible in the snow. Too much power (and weight) over the front wheels - it tended to plow a lot on snowy roads. The Edge was a lot more comfortable and quiet than my 15 Forester and way faster, but it was more expensive to own. It went though brakes and tires like crazy. I got rid of it with just over 100k miles when it would occasionally clunk when shifting at low speeds. My wife and I still talk about that car as the Black Beauty, it was the best car we ever owned. I know Ford improved the ride and handling since the switch to the Fusion chassis but my Edge felt very light on its feet - in a good way.

The forester is a great car too, just different. We know the positives, incredible traction in bad weather, reliable and efficient. I got 60k miles from the original tires and front brakes (the rears were replaced at 50k I think). Here are the negatives or peeves if you will. Very touchy throttle response off the line. Road noise, although it is improved since swapping from stock Connies to Michelin Defenders based on a CR recommendation. Front passenger seat comfort: On the Limited trim, the passenger seat has manual adjustments which are ok, but the seat seems to sit higher than the driver- it feels like you are on an overstuffed bar stool. The rear seats on the Edge reclined and the stock tint on the back was like a limo so you couldn't see in the back. Subie's are tinted but not as dark. I've driven Fords as company cars to 100k over the years ('06 and '10 Escapes) and they have been pretty reliable - as was my Edge.

We've had warm winters with little snow that last couple years. Without snow the Forester can be a little....boring. I probably shouldv'e gotten the turbo.
 
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