Hello:
This may sound like a long winded story lacking of any reasonable logic, so please bear with me.
I used to have a 2008 Subaru Forester Premium which we loved,with the exception that it was not feasible to install a GPS because of the configuration of the dashboard, and I did not want to mount it on the windshield.
So at the end of 2011 we attempted to get a subaru forester with gps installed (I forget model name). After it was delivered to the dealer it turned out that for some reason they could not install the gps, and I decided that the whole deal was sour because they could not deliver. I had in fact given up on getting Subaru to deliver a car with luxury features.
That is when we got a Volvo XC60 with the tech package.
The Volvo Tech Package is what is now called Eyesight on the subarus.
So what I am doing here now?
My experience with the Volvo has been less than satisfactory. Plastic parts break, the spedometer sometimes does not move when its below 14 degrees outside, there was a long time when they could not figure out why the ipod integration was not working, the moonroof continued to fail to close, and Adaptive Cruise Control would sometimes turn off or would not activate.
The dealer fixed all of the repeatable issues, but I have spent alot of time waiting in dealer service waiting areas or driving loaners.
The spedometer issue is the scariest one. It has only happened a few times but it is not repeatable. I also don't understand how a computer controlled spedometer could get stuck in the cold.
I am considering getting a subaru forester with Eyesight, but the folks who have commented about it have found the same problems that I found on the Volvo. Although they seem to have better insight as to why its happening ... overloaded sensors, driving into the sun etc.
I am thinking about getting a Subaru because I have never had issues like the above on a new car with Subaru. In addition, the all time AWD is fantastic.
Here are my questions:
1) Is Subaru now capable of delivering vehicles with luxury features (nav, ipod integration, EyeSight)
2) Is it still true that Subaru internals have the high quality of workmanship I remember? Should I expect plastic parts and other mechanical items to fall apart and be unreliable like the 2012 Volvo I have now?
3) With Eyesight, can I turn off features I don't want? For example, ACC is still pretty cool, at speeds higher than 40 mph. I have seen videos and read about people complaining that the ACC on the subaru could cause the car to slow down drastically. However if you are in a situation where the car is slowing down due to congestion you should be turning off the ACC and driving with your brain.
Thanks
Matthew
This may sound like a long winded story lacking of any reasonable logic, so please bear with me.
I used to have a 2008 Subaru Forester Premium which we loved,with the exception that it was not feasible to install a GPS because of the configuration of the dashboard, and I did not want to mount it on the windshield.
So at the end of 2011 we attempted to get a subaru forester with gps installed (I forget model name). After it was delivered to the dealer it turned out that for some reason they could not install the gps, and I decided that the whole deal was sour because they could not deliver. I had in fact given up on getting Subaru to deliver a car with luxury features.
That is when we got a Volvo XC60 with the tech package.
The Volvo Tech Package is what is now called Eyesight on the subarus.
So what I am doing here now?
My experience with the Volvo has been less than satisfactory. Plastic parts break, the spedometer sometimes does not move when its below 14 degrees outside, there was a long time when they could not figure out why the ipod integration was not working, the moonroof continued to fail to close, and Adaptive Cruise Control would sometimes turn off or would not activate.
The dealer fixed all of the repeatable issues, but I have spent alot of time waiting in dealer service waiting areas or driving loaners.
The spedometer issue is the scariest one. It has only happened a few times but it is not repeatable. I also don't understand how a computer controlled spedometer could get stuck in the cold.
I am considering getting a subaru forester with Eyesight, but the folks who have commented about it have found the same problems that I found on the Volvo. Although they seem to have better insight as to why its happening ... overloaded sensors, driving into the sun etc.
I am thinking about getting a Subaru because I have never had issues like the above on a new car with Subaru. In addition, the all time AWD is fantastic.
Here are my questions:
1) Is Subaru now capable of delivering vehicles with luxury features (nav, ipod integration, EyeSight)
2) Is it still true that Subaru internals have the high quality of workmanship I remember? Should I expect plastic parts and other mechanical items to fall apart and be unreliable like the 2012 Volvo I have now?
3) With Eyesight, can I turn off features I don't want? For example, ACC is still pretty cool, at speeds higher than 40 mph. I have seen videos and read about people complaining that the ACC on the subaru could cause the car to slow down drastically. However if you are in a situation where the car is slowing down due to congestion you should be turning off the ACC and driving with your brain.
Thanks
Matthew