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Just bought a 2014 XT. Im mostly happy. Although after driving a 2006 for a number of years. It's is certainly much cushier. I want to take the automatic hydraulic out entirely. I'm happy to open and close the lift-gate myself. Is this a possible scenario or I'm I setting myself up for a world of hurt?

Please weigh in. Thanks

Apologies if this is the wrong place for this post.
 

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@8lackie you now have your own thread, as it didn't fit in the thread you posted in. :wink:

I'm going to guess that could be too much trouble to remove the automatic lift gate system? :confused:

I'd recommend living with it for awhile to see if you get used to it or you could be a "trailblazer" & be the first to do this modification!

Oh yes, congratulations on the new Forester purchase! :cool:

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Follow. I am wondering if there is a fuse or some electrical to disable it. Its slowness to open drives me insane.

I could use that fuse for other mod. ;)
 

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Just press the button on the outer trim panel for more than a few seconds and you can open all on your own.

Or psuh the button on the key fob from a fewfeet further back so you're still walking while it opens.
 

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Thank you for the responses. This is a lovely car, but feels bloated after buzzing around in my 2006 Forester. Yes Bobby, you're right, Ill live with it for a while. Trail blazing may still be in the future. :)
 

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Convert power liftgate to manual liftgate?

Wife and I are finding the power liftgate to be more hassle than it's worth... it's slow, glitchy, and the screw/lift assembly rattles on certain roads.

Is it possible to convert the car to manual liftgate? I was thinking of removing the lift rod that connects the hatch to the screw knuckle, and perhaps disconnecting the wire harness to the screw motor. My only concern is that the system is more complicated than I'm imagining and would freak out if I start modifying it.

Do I need to purchase the manual liftgate hatch latch? Will it work with the wire harnesses in the liftgate designed for the power liftgate latch?

Any ideas? :icon_cool:
 

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I'd definitely be curious to hear how this works out if you do it. I'm similarly annoyed by the slowness of the hatch. Plus, people who don't know how it work pull on it and it starts going, but they don't know that, so they pull harder, and it's not good. The only benefit is being able to open it from the driver's seat while someone is approaching with their hands full. It can also be nice to press the button to close, then grab a load of stuff from the cargo area quickly and let it close on its own with full hands.
 

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@lmoore8 Well a month on, I'm living with it but I,m not loving it. Slow, as you point out and too easy to torque, if you forget, or someone isn't used to it. I'm waiting for the weather to warm again, and then I'll look at removing it.
 

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Has anyone followed through with this "conversion." I'm tired of standing in poop weather waiting for the rear hatch to decide if it will open, when it will open, then wasting precious seconds of my life waiting for the damn thing to slowly open. Time is fleeting and I feel the slow creep of death as I wait for this thing.

If nobody followed through I will try the Outback method. This is a similar system, but it's a Japanese-manufactured system as opposed to the American-manufactured system and they're not quite the same. I'll give it a shot.

I don't believe the lift struts will need to be changed. I am concerned about the electronic latch acting up but the Outback owners don't seem to have an issue. The final concern is a warning message on the MID or MFD, but I can clear that if I have to reconnect everything. I love this Forester I just can't stand this damn liftgate motor.
 

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Makes sense.....getting rid of a push button that does the work to manually opening and closing.... :rolleyes:
 

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Guys - no matter what - the gate can work in "manual mode" all day long. When you unlock the doors, you can just push the little button on the outside of the hatch (right above the license plate, between the lights) for a second and it will beep 3 times and then - voila! - the hatch opens manually. Conversely, you can pull down on the hatch to close it manually, too.

As for the concept of "oh, I'm waiting forever for the gate to open" - talk about first world problems - but try pressing the open button on your remote when you're still 30 feet away and the gate will be pretty much fully open by the time you arrive with your cart full of groceries, your flat of DIY gear or whatever it is you're loading to the back... This works when sun is shining or the rain is pouting down.
 
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I often lift my hatch quickly, effectively overriding the power lift. I don't find that the motor adds all that much resistance to my manual lift. But if you find otherwise, it would be simple enough to undo the clip at the hatch and at the motor arm and remove the flay rod (but be careful that you don't invoke the Spanish Inquisition).
 

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Makes sense.....getting rid of a push button that does the work to manually opening and closing.... :rolleyes:
Thank you for the valuable feedback. Astounding view. I would love to subscribe to your newsletter.

After 20 years on the forums I never understood the concept of dropping in to a thread to be a jackass when it's a technical discussion. You could always choose to be a decent person and keep scrolling.

Just because the feature exists doesn't mean it's well executed. This was a poor implementation and Subaru realized that with the addition of power lift stays in the 2019 Ascent. Suddenly the speed has to be dialed down because we went from slow operation to having to jump back when you hit the button. Cool poop and it then trickled down to the Forester and Outback. Unfortunately my used 2014 Touring model is stuck with a liftgate who's sole existence seems to be to be as tempermental as my 4yr old. There's a solution to the frustration, why the hell wouldn't someone pursue it?
 

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Is the feature well executed? That's always a source of personal perception. I've never had really much of a problem with the power liftgate on my 2014 Forester Limited. Is it slow? That's all relative and perceptual. But I can always open it from a distance and it's open and ready for me to load up stuff....

As said - you can always manually open and close the gate by pressing the release button on the gate (by the license plate) for an extra half-second and it will release the lock and then you pull it open. And you can always close it manually as well. You can also open or close the gate from a distance (maybe up to 30 feet away) without any real delay - it would be open and ready for you to load up your gear, groceries or whatever without waiting.

PS - your own original snarky post ("wasting precious seconds of my life...") could be the reason for other's snark in response. There are thousands of other seconds in your life you waste daily, as well.

Just for giggles n grins, I just went out to my Foz and pressed the button on the remote. It took 10 seconds from the time I pressed the button until it was full open. That includes the time for the warning beeps before the liftgate goes into motion... Closing takes about the same - maybe 11 seconds because it has to latch closed properly.

Take a breath and relax a moment and - again - learn how to open it manually.
 

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Thank you for the valuable feedback. Astounding view. I would love to subscribe to your newsletter.

After 20 years on the forums I never understood the concept of dropping in to a thread to be a jackass when it's a technical discussion. You could always choose to be a decent person and keep scrolling
Take a pill dude
 
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