The stock ones are almost useless, when I first tested mine I thought they were burnt out.if so, just curious as to what fits in there for aftermarket options that are a lil' more useful than the stock ones.
Useful for? Real fog situations (probably < 1%)? Having massing lighting right in front of the car is not something you want when going at higher speeds.if so, just curious as to what fits in there for aftermarket options that are a lil' more useful than the stock ones.
I agree that there are good, bright, fog lamps that cut off well. It looks to me like the OEM lamps cut off correctly but are so weak that they produce almost no value. The low beams project out higher and further. The headlights swamp the fog lamp output. The fogs might be useful if it was possible to run them alone with the low-beams off. Without mods, I think that cannot be done. Has anyone tried that?that's all well and good, but anybody who has ever had a good set of aftermarket fog lamps installed on their vehicle will likely attest to them being more "useful" and/or better than the stock ones. also, I've owned several vehicles with OEM fog lights that were much better (and by better I mean they were brighter and/or they lit a greater area) than the ones in my current car.
GeoJosh,Check out these threads.
Here is a thread about the fogs only working in concert with the low beams: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f76/foglights-can-only-come-low-beams-love-hate-115275/
Lets not make this a discussion of whether fog lights should really bright or not, or when they should be used (see "Fog Lights Suck" above for that). Keep it on topic of making them brighter, since that is what the OP wants.
I agree with you, as you can see in this post of mine: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f85/fog-lights-suck-274369/#post2878537... just trying to stay ahead of this thread going downhill.GeoJosh,
If your suggestion relates to my post, I had no intent to change the focus. I understand that the OP wants bright fogs. Me too.
I thought it would be worthwhile to note that the only easy way to make them bright that I have found also made them NOT fog lights. Do you know of a practical system to make the OEM fog lamps bright?
I apologize for my poor wording.
Same for the HID, no cutoff and would be dangerous.I agree with you, as you can see in this post of mine: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f85/fog-lights-suck-274369/#post2878537... just trying to stay ahead of this thread going downhill.
If I wanted to make my fog lights a lot brighter, I would try to find an LED replacement. Putting a larger halogen or HID bulb in the stock housing would likely cause damage due to heat, which is why I would think LEDs would be the best option. The downside to LEDs, as you pointed out in your first post, is that it would be very hard to get them to have a good cutoff like the OEM lights should.