My mother has a 2007 Dodge Caliber, same basic platform as the Patriot and Compass. The CVT in that acts pretty much the same as the Subaru, but the throttle response is a bit more delayed. I refer to it as the rubber band throttle, becuause that's what it seems like: You press the throttle, and its like a rubber band is pulling the throttle plate open.I know when I was shopping, I drove a Jeep Patriot and a Jeep Compass (both CVT equipped) and was .. shocked? annoyed? pissed off? by the way it worked. You put your foot down and the revs climb and climb (relatively quickly) to over 4000 RPM (the engine roaring all the way) until I hit 40 MPH (or whatever) and let off the gas pedal. Even moderate gas pedal pressure resulted in the engine racing to power peak and staying there.
The Subaru CVT only raced to power peak when I was really pushing the pedal ... and then it "shifted" to a different ratio to keep the engine in a better position for power and use.
No.Just curious if the CVT fluid was ever changed?
I was thinking about those the other day.For those that remember the Subaru Justy from the late 1980's, it too had a CVT.
My 2021 Forester has the same slight push at 15mph when slowing. I think it is a fuel cut off when coasting until the car slows to 15mph. If you watch the instant mpg numeric display, the mpg goes from 99MPG down to ~30mpg suddenly as you slow down to 15mph. My old 07 Camry Hybrid did the same thing when slowing to ~7mph, only with a more pronounced surge!I prefer a CVT if it works good, that being said, I just recently bought a 2021 Forester and find the following. When coming to a stop it will lock the torque converter and it gives a little jerk or whatever you want to call it. You can get the same action when at 40 or anywhere below when you let off or press on the gas pedal, instead of being smooth, it will give you that little jerk or whatever you want to call it. It happens in parking lots too and it can happen multiple times while driving through the parking lot or at lower speeds on back roads or neighborhoods and I hate it.
It is because the torque converter unlocks at ~15mph/24kph. With it locked the engine revs are being maintained by the locked powertrain, but as soon as it unlocks this is no longer the case so the ECU has to switch the injectors back on to maintain engine idle.My 2021 Forester has the same slight push at 15mph when slowing. I think it is a fuel cut off when coasting until the car slows to 15mph. If you watch the instant mpg numeric display, the mpg goes from 99MPG down to ~30mpg suddenly as you slow down to 15mph.
I had the displeasure of driving a rental Jeep Patriot for over a week when we were still doing our 120 mile (round trip) commute and the CVT in that thing was absolutely horrible. Her 2008 Forester was getting the HGs replaced along with the timing belt, etc.The original Compass/Patriot twins used that same transmission. When I test drove the Compass back then, it was very rubber-band, yes, but just seemed to peg the motor when I was accelerating.
I have also experienced the feeling that the engine was misfiring.I've got a 2020 Forester and have done several long distance road trips with it. I'm not sure what it is called but the engine all too frequently jerks as if the engine is misfiring or the fuel filter is clogged. I think this usually happens on high speed uphill stretches. It feels worrisome but I've been told this is due to the CVT. Quite unnerving and worrisome.