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I really like the design of the interior and the back. Oh hey, turbo is back!
 

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Subaru just need attention. It seems the Fozie XT maybe back in 2020bor later 2021.
 

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It technically is an XT! The Legacy XT...

I guess they'll be pushing people for the Outback XT instead?

One can hope that when the new WRX comes out, Subaru will import that engine (probably an updated FA20) into a future Forester XT.
 

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This is the first thing I noticed on the interior:

"The centerpiece of the completely redesigned Legacy interior is the available all-new 11.6-inch STARLINK Multimedia touchscreen."
 

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Looks like the new Legacy will get a re-designed CVT:
"For 2020, the Legacy’s CVT hydraulic system features a lower viscosity oil that reduces horsepower loss by 32 percent compared to the previous model’s CVT, helping the new model achieve both higher fuel economy and greater driving performance."

No mention of Auto Stop/Start that I saw.

It's disappointing to learn that the HVAC system will be controlled through the touch screen.
 

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From the video, the auto stop-start icon is shown in the dash. And at least there's still physical buttons to actually control the temp? No fan knob or mode selector though without going to the touchscreen.

Granted the touchscreen will probably only be for limited models and up. Heck it may even only be for the Touring trim for all we know. I'm sure the lower trims will have a more standard 8" screen.

https://youtu.be/8itCaMZHtVA
 

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FA24 is a bored out FA20. Detuned it and then added a turbo to get a whopping 20 more HP. :shrug:
 

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24 city and 32 highway is better than my 15 XT and 0 to 60 at 6.1 is around the same maybe a few tenths faster. I was looking at the H6 Outback because of the discounts and 0 % financing. I'll wait for the 2020 Outback XT hopefully not priced too high and be able to get some decent discounts.
 

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It's disappointing to learn that the HVAC system will be controlled through the touch screen.
No fan knob or mode selector though without going to the touchscreen.

Granted the touchscreen will probably only be for limited models and up. Heck it may even only be for the Touring trim for all we know. I'm sure the lower trims will have a more standard 8" screen.

https://youtu.be/8itCaMZHtVA
Big mistake Subaru needs to pay better attention to what is happening out there. Other manufacturers that went touch screen are bringing back buttons. It's a car not a phone. I absolutely hate the Sync 3 system in my Ford Flex.

Funny how there are laws that don't allow you to hold a phone to your head, but the gov allows touch everything in cars. With physical buttons you develop muscle memory and don't need to look away from the road. Now to do anything you need to look away from the road.
 

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[I absolutely hate the Sync 3 system in my Ford Flex.]

Hate it in my F150 as well. Double redundancy for everything but the hated/cooled seats. If rewiring the seats to a separate switch wasn't such a hassle, I would have yanked out the entire unit. Hate to see that this is becoming a trend, as I really don't think it's necessary. Knobs and switches have served us well over the past 100 years.
 

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[I absolutely hate the Sync 3 system in my Ford Flex.]

Hate it in my F150 as well. Double redundancy for everything but the hated/cooled seats. If rewiring the seats to a separate switch wasn't such a hassle, I would have yanked out the entire unit. Hate to see that this is becoming a trend, as I really don't think it's necessary. Knobs and switches have served us well over the past 100 years.
I haven't been in one, but someone I was talking to about my Flex said their Audi was worse. They said it was something like 3 to 4 presses just to change radio band.

It's just gotten to the point of stupidly.

I had sworn off Ford because of it, but the pics of the 2020 Explorer give me hope as the entire Climate control is back as buttons and key ones for the stereo.
 

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I haven't been in one, but someone I was talking to about my Flex said their Audi was worse. They said it was something like 3 to 4 presses just to change radio band.

It's just gotten to the point of stupidly.

I had sworn off Ford because of it, but the pics of the 2020 Explorer give me hope as the entire Climate control is back as buttons and key ones for the stereo.
Guess I'm not too surprised to hear that about the system in an Audi. Every VW, Audi, or Porsche I'v ever had the (dis)pleasure of working on always seemed to be needlessly complicated. But perhaps I just don't understand German logic.

Also good to hear that Ford has decided to revert back to the tried and true, if that info is accurate. Could be that Ford buyers don't prefer that system.

On the other hand, perhaps the majority of Subaru buyers would like to have a touch screen only. Some focus group somewhere probably suggested this to be the case. That said, manufactures have to guess what the people want every five years or so, and this decision is made long before the new generation vehicle goes into production. So there is always a possibility that what the manufacturer though was a solid idea, has become a passing fad in the interim between prototype and production. All the consumer can do is make their dissatisfaction known and hope that the manufactures are listening.
 
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