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What do you bet Subaru will come out with a Forester XT or Sport XT next year?

The 2.4T, the 'C' shaped LED daytime running lights (Strangely available on the Sport trim in Canada. Not the US), steering responsive headlights, just like the higher trim levels, dual exhaust, maybe some other incremental updates as Subaru always does.

It's obvious the 5% Subaru said bought the XT were predominantly male. I live in Subaru country and of the 2019 Foresters I've seen driving around were of the Limited trim on down, driven by women. And the only two Sport trim levels I've seen were driven by men.
And as it seems Subaru is going to go with the 2.4T as their XT motor. They've also taken criticism for doing away with a turbo Forester as other manufactures have stepped in to take that spot, like Mazda, Honda, Hyundai. And after all Subaru is a business and they want to make money. So I could totally see a 2020 Forester XT version coming out.
 

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I dont see it happening as soon as 2020. But on the next model refresh I can see it sneaking back in especially with the global platform they are rolling out.

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The 2019 is already on their new global platform. And as I eluded to, the competition is more than willing to fill that turbo 4 void. And I can't see it costing much to Subaru to drop the 2.4T drive train into the new Forester and offer an XT version very soon. Not too mention the weight and size of the new Forester. I can't imagine that 2.4T would have to work very hard and could achieve some pretty good fuel economy in a Forester.
 

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They've also taken criticism for doing away with a turbo Forester as other manufactures have stepped in to take that spot, like Mazda, Honda, Hyundai. And after all Subaru is a business and they want to make money. So I could totally see a 2020 Forester XT version coming out.
Criticism by no one that matters. They are selling all the cars they can make. The FA 2.4 is too an expensive an engine to put in a vehicle that there is zero demand for.
 

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Criticism by no one that matters. They are selling all the cars they can make. The FA 2.4 is too an expensive an engine to put in a vehicle that there is zero demand for.
5% or so isn't zero. And when it comes to modern day automobile manufacturing, adding another motor that's already in production can't cost very much. So I still see Subaru reviving the Forester XT line. Build it and they will come. Japan already has a version with a eBoxer engine, or concept version of it. Get rid of that hybrid and throw in the 2.4T or heck, even bring back the 2.0T.
 

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I certainly hope they are sensible enough to do this. i have heard great things about the Mazda turbo, so will look there if Subaru continues to disappoint.
 

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Many people complaining they go rid of the XT and wanting Subaru to bring it back will never buy a new one or will never buy one at all. If all of these people actually bought an XT, the sales numbers woiudl have supported keeping it around. Unfortunately the majority of people buying Foresters preferred the non-turbo leaving the people who actually bought an XT in a very small minority.

The Forester XT will be very dependent on how well the Outback XT sells. If a majority of Outback sales are XT models, then it makes a strong case to possibly bring back a Forester XT model.
 

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Many people complaining they go rid of the XT and wanting Subaru to bring it back will never buy a new one or will never buy one at all. If all of these people actually bought an XT, the sales numbers woiud have supported keeping it around. Unfortunately the majority of people buying Foresters preferred the non-turbo leaving the people who actually bought an XT in a very small minority. .
And "putting another engine "won't cost very much"..different CVT, different exhaust, electronics, interior gauges, ...
Lots more thatI am not aware of. Totally way more than dropping in a different engine. And they are making as many foresters,xtrecks, OB's as they probably can. A year from now Thread: "21 Forester XT"

I live in a town and surrounding area..tons of Subarus. Not one 2018 XT except for mine.
 

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I'd be surprised if the XT is revived. A hybrid is more likely, imo, with a full electric in the next model as more countries tighten emission standards and plan on banning gasoline and diesel cars by the end of the 2020s.
 

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My ‘19 has plenty of room under the hood and what appears to be a removable panel on the left of the rear bumper. It’s sort of like they are planning a dual outlet exhaust setup. What could that possibly be useful for?
 

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The lack of an 2019 FXT left us with one option. We really like the new 2019 3.6R Outback. If you get a chance spend some time driving one. It is so smooth. I'm thinking about selling the 04XT and keeping the 98S.
 
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The lack of an 2019 FXT left us with one option. We really like the new 2019 3.6R Outback. If you get a chance spend some time driving one. It is so smooth. I'm thinking about selling the 04XT and keeping the 98S.
The 2020 Will have the FA24 Turbo. Very very conservatively rated at 260 HP. Wait til 2020!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Time will tell. I hope I'm wrong but having held out hope for an STi Forester I'm not holding my breath.
 

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The 2020 Outback will have the 2.4L Turbo... and that in itself redeems Subaru for me vs the Forester Sport. I'll refrain from using bad words for the "Sport." With 136k miles on my '14FXT, the new 2020 Outback Turbo is looking SO GOOD :)
 

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The forester is based on the Impreza and the XT used a detuned WRX engine. IMO, you won’t see a new forester XT before a redesign of the WRX.
 

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All speculation. However hasn't Subaru said officially that we're not going to see an XT Forester or Turboed Crosstrek due to the crazy demand for both now?

i have a 2018 XT I bought last year. I like it. Howver, the Outback XT looks nicer, if I could have waited, I would have gotten that.
Its very comfortable to sit in and nicer materials. On the other hand, I like the uprightniess of the Forester and it is tossable (for an SUV)
 

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And "putting another engine "won't cost very much"..different CVT, different exhaust, electronics, interior gauges, ...
Lots more thatI am not aware of. Totally way more than dropping in a different engine. And they are making as many foresters,xtrecks, OB's as they probably can. A year from now Thread: "21 Forester XT"

I live in a town and surrounding area..tons of Subarus. Not one 2018 XT except for mine.
There are several in my town that I don't own. I see them all the time.
 

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The forester is based on the Impreza and the XT used a detuned WRX engine. IMO, you won’t see a new forester XT before a redesign of the WRX.
Yea..interesting that since the Impreza came out in 1992 they have spun of other car lines notably the Forester in 1997/98 and Crosstrek.
 

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The lack of an 2019 FXT left us with one option. We really like the new 2019 3.6R Outback. If you get a chance spend some time driving one. It is so smooth. I'm thinking about selling the 04XT and keeping the 98S.


Just bought a 2019 OBT 3.6r and traded in my 2015 FXTT. Was going to wait another year but the more I looked the less I liked the options I found. Frankly I have liked the XT power but it never has been all that smooth, plus I was tired of paying .50 more per gallon for premium. That and carbon buildup, plus I do a lot of short trips. The turbo doesn’t seem to like that.

I tested an Ascent to get the feel of the 2020 OB XT engine, and it reminded me so much of the 2.0 DIT I have. Very good low end power but not particularly linear. And that DI carbon problem has not been solved, as far as I know. My XT was a carbonizer, and it ate my O2 sensors when I cleaned it at 35,000 miles.

The 3.6r is like silk, and it makes the OB, especially in Touring trim, look and ride like a near luxury vehicle. Just nice, it is. It’s not as agile as the XT but still quite passable. I’m still on honeymoon (20 miles on the clock) but will see. So far it’s great.

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