I realize that the horse may be dying here, but the point is that the SOURCE for the mpg numbers come from the manufacturer, not the EPA, in the vast majority of cases.Hi @DragonSubie7 - if you take a look at what I said (below), you'll see that we're pretty much in agreement -
- Subaru does not figure the MPG figures. That comes from the EPA and other such agencies.. Subaru may give "estimated" MPGinformation, but the actual figures promoted on the Monroney sticker on the window and used in advertising comes from the EPA. The way that the EPA tests to generate those number has changed a bit over the years, but it is still not anything even REMOTELY similar to real world driving.
- The car is put in a room on rollers and "driven". There are changes to the drive - it's piloted by a driver - that is supposed to mimic real world driving, but each test still only averages about 48 MPH for the entire "test".
- Other times, the manufacturer CAN provide MPG numbers that the EPA will accept as valid, but often when new engines and such are figured, they will test a vehicle at the EPA.
Nearly always these are based on isolated examples.
When Subaru gives the EPA the mpg number and then the EPA puts that number on the sticker, where did the number come from? The EPA?
Using that logic, if I quote your post then I'm the source for your information, which I'm not.
It's the source, not the distributor of information that is pertinent to where information is "coming from".
As to the rest of your well written original post, I agree with you.
The EPA typically gets involved when there are disputes as to the veracity (typically significant overstatement) of the manufacturer's mileage figures that were provided.
For the OP's concern, as I and others now have stated, the numbers are for comparison, rather than actual expected values, and this is clearly stated on the EPA sticker. That being said, while I doubt there is any legal matter to be resolved, the OP is free to file a complaint with the EPA regarding the stated figures.
The problem with that going anywhere is that there are others on this same site that report figures in line with the sticker's estimate.
So who is right?
The sticker - Numbers are for comparison, and your actual mileage can vary.