I have used stainless lines and regular lines on the same vehicle. They do not affect stopping distance.
I have used stainless lines and regular lines on the same vehicle. They do not affect stopping distance.I actually have braided steel brake lines in a '15 XT.
They made a noticeable difference in pedal firmness and modulation.
Those who say braided steel hoses make no difference have clearly never used braided steel hoses.
The purpose of braided steel brake lines is not protection from debris. Their purpose is better modulation.
I know that I have looked to go to a smaller wheel size too with my SK Forester, but from what I have seen, without running spacers, I am stuck with a 17in@Warpshift
You could go on Subaru parts and see if the part numbers are the same between 2018 and 2019 for the brake rotor sizes you have on your 2019. The rear brake set up is definitely different as the 2019 up has the e parking brake. But necessarily that doesn't mean the lines are different.
I wouldn't hold my breath that they are the same part though.
I know they affect braking in terms of feel and the amount of pressure that the line can handle. I want them mainly for the brake pedal improvement and more protection when I am offroad. Plus I live in the hellish heat of southern AZ. Our sun destroys everything out here, including rubber lines.I have used stainless lines and regular lines on the same vehicle. They do not affect stopping distance.
You are obviously more sophisticated than most drivers who do drilled rotors and stainless lines because everyone else is so they must be better and the look siiiiick, duuude!!!
I'm sure that you'll understand that better pads and braided hoses are not mutually exclusive. The OP said nothing about pads.
Braided steel lines address a specific design problem in our Foresters - a spongy pedal. OE Forester brakes are sub-standard IMO. The master cylinder brace and steel lines are requisite upgrades and firm up the pedal significantly. They make a big difference in our cars.
You must drive on pristine roads akin to Abu Dubai. Out here in Southern AZ, we have all kinds of ish that can affect your on road performance.Steel braided lines do not offer a performance upgrade for your braking. Besides having a stiffer "feeling" brake pedal they would only offer protection from track debris slicing into the rubber hose, which is not something you would need with street driving.
Speaking of the XT, I really wish Subaru would pull it's head out of a certain area and bring the new JDM turbo Forester engine to the states.@Warpshift I understand where you're coming from regarding the heat on rubber and road debris. I think if you want braided lines, you're going to have to custom make them. Subaru generally is not a large market compared to say Toyota. And you're driving a grocery getter. So not many owners out there in a smallish market are/would be interested in installing braided, especially for your NON-Turbo/XT.
I have been searching for the past week with no luck. So yeah I will probably go with a custom make-my-own braided brake lines. I found some shops in the states that can do it for about $60-$80 for each line.@Warpshift I understand where you're coming from regarding the heat on rubber and road debris. I think if you want braided lines, you're going to have to custom make them. Subaru generally is not a large market compared to say Toyota. And you're driving a grocery getter. So not many owners out there in a smallish market are/would be interested in installing braided, especially for your NON-Turbo/XT.
Nobody has a definitive answer. My best is in post #5.To be frank, it's about lines for a 2019 Forester. At least that's the question. The OP doesn't need convinced. Have you got a definitive answer for the OP in his question?
I understand where you're coming from regarding the heat on rubber
I remember back in the day, I had a lifted 2wd Frontier that I busted the power steering line while hauling ass on a fireroad. That became a not-fun drive home. I think my arms grew 2in by the time I got home.FWIW, I used a braided SS line on a non Subaru for a oil pressure gauge/idiot light block due to a header I installed being very tight to where the original oil pressure switch was located on the engine block. It has held up for about 7 years now, and no failures. Granted there is no where near brake line pressures there, but the rubber part hasn't burned up or cracked inside the braid yet. Having an oil line melt near an exhaust manifold or header always adds a new level of fun to your day.