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I've already made a financial mistake buying the tinted subiespeed lights. They're nice but illegal in my state. I lost approx $500 because of it. I just want to make sure I'm doing everything right before I get my new tires/wheels.

I own a 2016 base model that needs to get the tires changed soon. I'm gonna get new wheels because it will look so much better with my bronze forester. I'm looking at black motegi mr139 17x7.5 with falken A/T trail at stock size (225/60/17). I'm thinking of buying them on tirerack for a total of $1,395. I just reached out to a tire shop in my state to get quotes.

I'm thinking of keeping my old tpms and putting it in my new tires/wheels. If I get my stuff online, I will have tirerack mount and balance the tires/wheels. But would you recommend getting news tpms?

What's a good estimate for getting tires/wheels/tpms installed?

And lastly, is there anything I should do before and after? Like getting an alignment?


Sorry for all the stupid questions. This is my first time customizing a car and even getting new tires

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the shop can transfer your tmps is you want from your old wheels or buy a second set from tire rack and they can program them to your car. install cost varies even locally. I got quotes from 100 to mount, balances and tmps transfer/rebuild to 250 depending on the shop. Tire rack has deals with shops you you pay tirerack for the install at checkout and they ship the tires and everything to the shop and you just bring it in for your appt and its all paid fo already. I've never used it but it exsist
 

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If your money is tight, I might suggest skipping the new wheels and just going for tires, but it's your dime. New wheels generally add $0 to the resale value of your car.

The only other problem I see here is that if you trash a tire by running over a sharp piece of metal or hitting a curb, you will have to wait for Tire Rack to mail you a new tire... I prefer dealing locally with Discount Tire (which will match Tire Rack prices in most cases) so if I trash a tire I can get a replacement locally. I'm from Michigan and trashed a Conti tire in Kentucky 5 years ago (big bolt in the tread edge), found a Discount Tire store in Kentucky, and we continued on the road that day. Alternatively, a chain like Costco could also give you a local tire replacement source. I can't see much incentive for independent shops to deal with your mail-order tires and wheels unless they charge you a pile of money. You could head off some of these problems with a full-size spare, but not many people are willing to deal with that.

I have destroyed maybe 7 or 8 tires beyond repair in my 50+ years of driving--it doesn't happen that often, but it does happen.
 

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if you are re-using your tpms do not have tire rack mount and balance, you’ll have to pay to take the tires off the new wheels. I have read the average tpms battery life is 7 years, max about 12. This would obviously depend on how much you drive, but it’s something to consider (I have never had a battery fail on one but have never had one more than 10 years, and my average annual mileage is very low).

The two cost scenarios I’d compare are this- obviously you will have to price out the cost of the services with whomever you will use. If you gotta get new wheels I totally understand, that’s a personal choice.

1- new tpms sensors from tire rack, tires come mounted and balanced from tire rack, swap the wheels yourself (or pay to have it done) and pay for tpms reprogramming. Make sure your shop can do this or inquire at dealership.

2- wheels and tires separate from tire rack, pay for removing old tires, transferring tpms, mounting and balancing new tires.

Another thing to consider is tire rack will road force balance your wheels/tires and always puts them on correctly (the marked by manufacturer heavy point opposite valve stem). Your local shop may do this but make sure you are pricing a road force balance vs standard so you get an accurate cost assessment.
 

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Islandfoz, I see this is your first post, welcome to the forum.

The Motegi MR139 and Falken Wildpeak AT Trail is a solid combination. We sell this combination and get good feedback from people running this.

If we can help, please send us a PM.
 

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Issue with local places is getting a tire shaved to match the other tires. I'm in the DC metro area and as large as we are there's only one place that shaves tires and it's 1 hour away.

With Tire rack- mount the spare, measure current tires and get a matching one.
 

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the shop can transfer your tmps is you want from your old wheels or buy a second set from tire rack and they can program them to your car. install cost varies even locally. I got quotes from 100 to mount, balances and tmps transfer/rebuild to 250 depending on the shop. Tire rack has deals with shops you you pay tirerack for the install at checkout and they ship the tires and everything to the shop and you just bring it in for your appt and its all paid fo already. I've never used it but it exsist
perhaps TireRack has changed their deal, but the several times I have used a local installer recommended by TireRack (Firestone on Market St Seattle), I paid the local installer myself. it has always worked excellently.
 

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What will you be doing with the base steelies?

Do you need A/T tires or do you simply want them? Legit question. You could put A/T tires on the steelies and street tires on the new wheels.
 

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It looks like Motegi has a visualizer. Here's what they look like:
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If your money is tight, I might suggest skipping the new wheels and just going for tires, but it's your dime. New wheels generally add $0 to the resale value of your car.
Do they diminish resale value? Honestly its been my goal to get black wheels once my tires go. It's just I'm getting hit with new bills a lot these first two months. I have the car service to pay on top of insurance. Plus I've never bought anything over 1,000. Mom got me the car while i was in college and I've been taking care of it since.

So far I'm thinking of going to a local tire shop now.
 

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What will you be doing with the base steelies?

Do you need A/T tires or do you simply want them? Legit question. You could put A/T tires on the steelies and street tires on the new wheels.
I have the alloy wheels on mines. I was thinking of getting rid of my current wheels/tires but idk how I'm gonna do that. I want the AT just to have them and if needed. Last time i went offroading in sept 2020 I bottomed out twice and have since had ptsd/anxiety taking the car on the beaten path. One day I do want to go back off roading but I dont think I'll do that anytime soon. I do however live on dirt road (plantation road) that gets bad after heavy rains but honestly my normal all season tires were fine, just a bit beaten up. I guess I'm just trying to find an excuse to get the at lol
 

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Do they diminish resale value? Honestly its been my goal to get black wheels once my tires go. It's just I'm getting hit with new bills a lot these first two months. I have the car service to pay on top of insurance. Plus I've never bought anything over 1,000. Mom got me the car while i was in college and I've been taking care of it since.

So far I'm thinking of going to a local tire shop now.
The "value" of the car is what you can sell it for but putting $600 into a set of wheels or $2000 into a stereo that adds zero value to a vehicle is not the best use of money if you don't have money sitting in the bank.

Aftermarket wheels are not as long lasting or high quality as OEM wheels in most cases, and the specific style and size may not be available down the road if you destroy one. If you don't have money saved for repairs or emergencies, there is no way that I would recommend new wheels especially if your stock wheels are alloy. From the driver's seat, you will NEVER notice different wheels.

New tires when you need them are a mandatory expense--buy good tires and drive safely. Good luck, G
 

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Hey, you don't have to prove anything to me RE: why you want/need A/T tires. I was just getting a picture of whether you could afford an aftermarket SET of wheels/tires, as well as new tires on your steelies.

If you really want A/T tires and don't mind the look, I would stick with the steelies and A/T tires if you have major pot-holes and ruts on your road or if you want to go off-roading and money is even a little tight. You'll also be thankful when you bang up or bend a wheel and it's cheap to replace.

I don't mind the look of steelies. I have STI BBS on my DD, but have steelies for my winter setup. I'm honestly not sure if I could live with steelies year-round, though. That's something you'll have to figure out for yourself.

RE: your old wheels/tires: if you decide to go the A/T route and want to get rid of your old steelies/tires, there'll always be someone looking for some cheap setup to get them through the summer if there's any tread left. There are also people who would like the steelies for their winter setup. Both are based on your willingness to let them go cheap.

I would have paid a couple of hundred bucks for some used steelies were you selling before I got my winter tires put on way back when.
 

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Also, will 16" wheels fit? I'm pretty sure they do. I think I'd want some more tire under me if I lived off the beaten path or wanted to do some off-roading.
 

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XT can only go to some 17s due to the brake caliper size non XT had drop to some 15s. the rim design can change the exact size needed.
 

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If you don't have money saved for repairs or emergencies, there is no way that I would recommend new wheels especially if your stock wheels are alloy
What do you mean about this (my alloy wheels)? I will definitely buy new tires but I will think about the wheels. Thanks for the info
 
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