Sahuarita, Arizona USA 2018 Forester Limited
Anytime you buy the first year (2014/2019) of a new generation, you're asking for trouble.
Interesting, I notice that you both have 2014 Forester XTs. My 2104 is a base model, only 62,500 miles but haven't had a single problem. I certainly hope that your experience improves.Im in the same boat as you... although they are nice looking cars the build quality sucks! I still own my 2014 but its the last one i ever own.
I'm with you 100% on the fragile windshields. I replaced two cracked Subaru windshields in one year and had a third insurance claim for a "star" repair. For my third windshield I opted for non-Subaru glass since I don't have Eyesight. If you have not already done so please file a windshield complaint with NHTSA here:Too many issues from the start, especially the super thin cheap Subaru windshield that can barely take a tiny pebble even at slow speeds. I replaced my windshield 3 times in one year on my Subaru.
@rattler - Wow - Great post. It pretty well summed up my issue with current car offerings and sadly Subaru is going the same way.
Added complexity and driver distractions that provide negligible benefit in many cases, with "safety features" needed to overcome the hazard created by the driver needing to take their eyes off the road to do very simple things... and the cost of all of these.
The geniuses at Subaru have taken a capable, affordable to purchase and own vehicle and turned it into an expensive gadget that is already beyond the capability of their support staffs to diagnose and repair when there is a problem. It isn't hard to find a lot of evidence to back up that statement and it's on this site.
It reminds me of yet another example of the old axiom that “just because you can, doesn’t mean you should”.
The specter of this makes the car unaffordable once it is out of warranty as noted in the video you attached, and the "replace parts until it starts working" method practiced at dealers may be the only option.. a very expensive option some have already experienced if they didn't buy an extended warranty.
Time will tell if I'm right, but it seems logical to me that car value will suffer significantly as the potential cost of repairs easily exceed resale value.
I'm thinking that a complete rebuild of an older vehicle may become the only viable option to the current vehicle electronics infection.
Strongly agree with both of these statements!!!!!! This is why I don't want a newer Subaru or most any newer car, junk I don't want/need, that we're paying for and when it fails....good luck getting it fixed!!!!!You watch. Someone will come out with a hardcore low budget sedan. The only lost tech I would cry about is the key fob lock. safety stuff like stability and antilock brakes.
So I'll post trying to save you- don't buy any car, use public transport.Hey All,
Hoping i can change someones fortune before they buy a Subaru like i did on the guise of Japanese Engineering is fantastic and reliable.
I bought my 2014 Subaru Forester XT off the show-room floor, first new car i have ever had and obviously super excited! I had done plenty of research prior to this but had either not done enough or the issues hadn't been found throughout lots of people so far.
Here is the list of things that have been wrong with my car:
My car has <85,000kms (52,800Miles) on the clock, has never been driven off road and i drive it pretty damned conservatively.
- A few months into owning my car, I noticed a large knock every time i went over a bump so i took it back to the dealer - the Tie Rod End nuts were completely loose.
- I had and still do have lag and clunking when trying to move between gears at certain RPM ranges at seemingly random times. Talked to Subaru every time i got it serviced, could never replicate so it was always shrugged off.
- My A/C compressor clutch started squeeling so loud every time it engaged i had to drive without A/C until it was fixed. Subaru did not want to have a bar of this as it was deemed "normal function"
- My "leather" seats, which im sure, aren't actually leather, has started to crack quite badly (i am 80-85kg's. (175-185 pounds)).
- Just now, every time i drove over 85km/hr, my whole car started to vibrate so much it couldn't be driven over that speed, i originally thought that it might have dropped a weight from a wheel, nope, my Front Control Arm Bushes are completely flogged out and the rear bushes are cracked. Obviously my car is out of warranty but these bushes should be nowhere near that damaged for the Km's i have put on it and the way i drive it so i got my local Subaru dealer to ask Subaru Australia for good will and their response was that it was denied.
Everything in that list has been denied for either warranty or goodwill on the idea that all of that is either "Normal Function" or normal wear and tear.
So before you buy a Subaru Forester or ANY Subaru in general just remember that your car can be completely undriveable and it will still be fine in their eyes.
Don't touch Subaru, their quality is absolute trash, their post-sales support is absolute trash and their idea of what is "Normal" is laughable. Buy a Hyundai or Kia.
Rant over, for here, same story going to be posted on every forum i can damn find.
We have a 2018 Crosstrek (which we love) and a 2014 Forester (which I don't love). My BIL had a 2014 Forester that was an absolute lemon. Ours, at 86,000 miles, has had more major repairs than I ever expected from a Subaru. I'm ready to trade the '14 Forester for a new car but am a bit skittish about the '20 Forester. Consumer Reports said Subarus had only average reliability and it's been trending down. We had a Prius that went >200k miles with NO major repairs. But we need a small SUV for vacation travel.@SubaruWB - Sorry you had so many problems mate. It sounds like you got a lemon and coupled with that, a dealer who in a word, sucks.
I'm on Subaru #6 and have had very good luck with all of them.
The current MY12 Forester I have is driven in terrible conditions on a daily basis, on some of the worst roads in my state.
I have to laugh when I see people's off-road pictures... They look like newly paved roads compared to what I drive on to get home.
Despite that, other than an air bag recall and the sunglass holder latch breaking, I've only had to do regular maintenance.
I do all of that myself, which makes the car very inexpensive to own and drive.
The 2004 Foz I bought for my daughter has over 250K on the clock and is still running well, and hasn't had any problems.
Based on feedback on this forum, I would not expect the same experience with a current model.
It appears that the newer the model, the more that quality issues seem to apply.
Unfortunately, I think Subaru has dropped the ball on quality in the effort to mass produce.
I maintain my cars well and expect them to last a long time, but I don't think a current Subaru is worth owning once the warranty expires.
I've read too many horror stories like yours on this forum.
I'm sure that opinion will raise ire in the forum FanBoy population, but I really don't care.
Like you, I am leaning towards finding another brand when I need to replace my current ride, or maybe not. I have an open mind.
I had bought a Kia for my wife which was a great car, and several good friends have AWD Sorentos that get great mileage and have had no problems.
If there is any good news for you, it is that Subarus have good resale value, much of that based on ratings from prior years reliability.
You should at least get a good down payment out of the car.
Fortunately, I don't need to get a replacement soon, but if you do, please share your experience.
In any case, good luck to you.