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I really appreciate having my oil filter on top of the engine. Great design change.
Edit: I mentioned Lisle oil filter wrenches, I meant Channelock. Like this:
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That does look like it would work really good, but on my Forester it wouldn't work because you can't use a tool from the side of the filter because there isn't any room.....Large covered
exhaust pipes blocking access to the filter from the sides.

I think OP tried a wrench like the Lisle tool, but he says there isn't the room for him to leverage it. Since you have the filter socket but it seems to spin instead of grip, you can do two things to make that more effective. You can run some electrical tape along the inside of the socket (where it grips the filter), like 2 or 3 times around. This decreases the diameter and gives a good friction surface to grip the filter. Combine that with additional force upwards, give it a good press towards the filter as you are trying to turn it to give extra grip over slip. Good luck @SmokinJoe814 , if you were my neighbor I'd do it for you.
There needs to be more people on this planet like you....Thanks and I am going out to try that right now.

@SmokinJoe814 any chance you're thinking about removing... changing the engine oil filter without draining the engine oil first?

Bobby...

I believe @adc recommended this oil filter wrench - Lisle 63600 & it's served me well!
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Yes I was going to do it that way....It seems like the oil pan is well away from where the filter is.
 

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That’s why they make all types of oil filter wrenches. Size and access. I used to own those spider wrenches but they can be a bit fiddly. I’m going to pick up a lisle.

as a last resort, I suppose you can drive a screwdriver through the filter? But that’s very messy. Lots of good suggestions here.
 

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When I had the 2008 Outback I always put the Lisle 63600 on top of the new filter. My mechanic really appreciated that device and never failed to release the old one. It might be my oldest tool used on motorcycles and cars since 1980.
 

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I wanted to thank all the guys for your advise .....I just went out again and tried removing the old oil filter...I put some tape on to see what that would do, but it didn't work on my filter because once I removed it I saw there was a few dents and guessing that wouldn't let the tape work....But after I took the tape off, I put alot of pressure on my ratchet pushing it forward
then I tried to turn it....Woo-Laa!!!! It worked!!....I didn't know how much oil would come out so I put a plastic container under where the filter was.....Only oil that came out was a minimal amount.
THANKS GUYS!!! I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP!!
 

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When the engine is not running, the oil runs into the sump (aka oil pan). The oil level will be well below the pan gasket. I'd expect to have to make up 8 ounces or so that are in the filter.

Good that you got it off. OP. Besides tape, I've heard of people using a strip of sandpaper under the filter wrench.
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I have have changed all my filters since new, and a cap wrench has worked OK. The cap does not fit perfectly tightly, so it takes pressing on the cap while gradually increasing the torque. Otherwise the cap will spin on the filter. On other cars I have lined the cap with masking tape to reduce the clearance and slippage.
The biggest tip I have is, after loosening the filter, put a Starbucks coffee cup over the filter and turn it off by hand. All the oil goes into the cup, not all over the exhaust shields. Then let the cup drop into the hand, with the filter and oil in it.
Actually you know what works better? A larger smartwater container cut so your tool ( I currently use a ares oil filter tool) can release the filter once it's loose remove ratchet, release a bit by hand and let the cut water bottle funnel the old oil away from the heat shields. But I do agree what a stupid design. I currently purchased a snap-on venturi air nozzle that I place my parts wash and quickly spray away the oil before it has a chance to permiate and get inside the shield
 

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Best tip: When installing a new filter just do it up hand tight and make sure to put a film of fresh oil on the seal.

I've never had a problem removing filters on my EJ251/253 motors with either the strap, cap socket or triple grabber cam style wrench.
 

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If you have the correct oil filter "cup" and the cup fits tightly and the inside profile of the cup matches the flats on the filter - the reason that your cup is turning on the filter is because the end of your ratchet or extension is protruding in too far and keeping the cup from bottoming on the filter. Try to put the oil filter cup on the filter and bottom it on the filter. Then just insert the ratchet or extension in just enough to get a good bite - not the whole way in. I learned this trick years ago and it works for me.
 

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The oil filters I use have marked on them to tighten either 2/3 or 3/4 turn from the point they just touch. I have been able to remove some by hand. The other issue with the cup type removal sockets is they are poorly made and might be for intended to fit two marginally different size filters and different brands of filters can be marginally different diameters as well. For this reason I have a number of oil filter tools.
 

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I changed my oil last week, I do it myself because it is too expensive to have it done in a shop ( $50! ). I am 70 years old so I would rather not do it
but don't have a choice. After changing the oil, I tried to replace the oil filter. [Excerpted] Help!! I can use some advice please!!
I just use a very, very large "slip-joint" pliers -- I have to grab it at an angle (reaching down because there isn't enough room to grasp it perpendicularly as would be proper), but it's so large that the angle isn't a problem as long as the tips of the jaws are grasping the flats (the 13 or so "flutes" around the top edge). Yes, I haven't been able to find a cap that actually fits those flutes -- after trying 3 brands, they still don't fit, either being too loose or too tight (and can't get it on) -- but my really big slip joint pliers have never failed me.
BTW, young man, I'm a few years older than you :D :D .
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I have been changing my oil for 50 years. Here is what I found:
The first oil change is always difficult because the oil filter and the drain plug are VERY tight. The cap wrench works the best on the Subarus with the exhaust pipe wrapped around it after the firs t filter is removed. I have used a strap wrench to loosen those. After the original filter is removed, I always hand tighten the replacement filter. It never leaks and removal is no problem afterwards.
The drain plug can be replaced by a Fumoto drain valve. This helps cut down on the mess.
 

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Harbor Freight tools, ( I know, I know, cheap junk, but sometimes they have "winners" ) has an oil filter cap socket type kit that has about 12 or 14 different size and configurations. All in a blow molded case.
I've always found one that fits perfectly no matter what engine I'm working on. From any of the 14 bikes, 9 four wheelers, the motor home, my front end loader and my bulldozer. Always found one that fits correctly.
 

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I had an old car that I couldn't get any filter wrench on. I followed the advice of a friend and took my longest screwdriver, stuck it through the filter and easily turned it off. Yes, it was a little messy.
 

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I changed my oil last week, I do it myself because it is too expensive to have it done in a shop ( $50! ). I am 70 years old so I would rather not do it
but don't have a choice. After changing the oil, I tried to replace the oil filter. Now, the oil filter is in a really tough spot with 2 thick exhaust pipes
one on each side of the filter. Wow....Thank you very much to whoever designed this.....I can get an oil filter cap on the end of the filter but when I try
to turn it with my ratchet the cap just starts spinning and not moving the filter at all. I bought a removal tool with a medal strap that goes around the body
of the filter but it is incredibly hard to get it on the filter and try and turn it with the exhaust pipes in the way. Also went out and got a tool with a square
medal pipe that had a cloth strap attached to it. My extension bar for my ratchet fit inside the pipe and I tightened it which tightened up the cloth strap
that was around the oil filter. Well it did tighten it up until the strap broke. Help!! I can use some advice please!!
 
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