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As above really. Car only came with one key that has the 2 buttons in the key for remote locking/unlocking. Any idea where to get a spare that won’t cost the earth. Someone suggested Timpsons. Googled it and folk are saying they were quoted £145!!

Cheers in advance.

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Yeah I’ve got you covered!

Nice new replacement flip keys for £80 a single/£150 a pair plus postage 👍

www.facebook.com/jdmsubarukeys
I also have only one key, I've been wanting to get a replacement for a while but as much as I trust your services the only thing I'm worried about is my only key for the car getting lost in the post, if it did I'm completely stuck :icon_sad:.
 

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I also have only one key, I've been wanting to get a replacement for a while but as much as I trust your services the only thing I'm worried about is my only key for the car getting lost in the post, if it did I'm completely stuck :icon_sad:.
Completely understandable but let me clarify.
I always use Royal Mail special Delivery and insist customers send me via that too, it's RM's top tier service, costs just £6.50, guaranteed next day delivery pre 1pm and automatically insured for £500.
I've used Special Delivery for over 20 years and never had a single item go missing including over 80 keys sent to me and returned in the last few months alone, they take the security of these packages very seriously, to the point of having them sealed in separate bags from the post office to the sorting center where they enter a different room to regular mail specifically for special Delivery items.
If the worst DID happen then the £500 compensation would more than cover the cost of recovery to a dealer and a new key.

Hope that puts your mind at rest a bit.

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Completely understandable but let me clarify.
I always use Royal Mail special Delivery and insist customers send me via that too, it's RM's top tier service, costs just £6.50, guaranteed next day delivery pre 1pm and automatically insured for £500.
I've used Special Delivery for over 20 years and never had a single item go missing including over 80 keys sent to me and returned in the last few months alone, they take the security of these packages very seriously, to the point of having them sealed in separate bags from the post office to the sorting center where they enter a different room to regular mail specifically for special Delivery items.
If the worst DID happen then the £500 compensation would more than cover the cost of recovery to a dealer and a new key.

Hope that puts your mind at rest a bit.

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That certainly does! :thumbsup:
 

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Cheers for the replies.


May have misjudged Timpsons (reports on Google that is about the ridiculous prices they allegedly charge)

Chap says, if you set the alarm on your car with the fob and then unlock it with the key.

If it goes off when you unlock it., we have to send the key away to be programmed.

If it doesnt, we can do it while you wait.

How much I asked?

Between £59 to £69 !

So off down there on Monday!

Thanks once again for the heads up.

ATVB.


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When you've been there and they've worked out they cant do a remote key for you then feel free to come back to me.

Also, you don't have an alarm, many people assume they have a factory alarm because they hear the chirps on lock/unlock, that's not the case and in fact any of the Cross Sports I've done don't even have a factory immobilizer, you might want to consider having an aftermarket immobilizer fitted, they're not expensive.

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I tried timpsons earlier this year one of their "remote key specialist" branches, they checked my key, said they could do it, took my details and said they'd be in touch and I've not heard a peep since.

I'm off on Holiday soon and my other car is in the shop for some restoration work/mods but when I'm back, and have another car to use I'll be in touch muzza :thumbsup:
 

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When you've been there and they've worked out they cant do a remote key for you then feel free to come back to me.

Also, you don't have an alarm, many people assume they have a factory alarm because they hear the chirps on lock/unlock, that's not the case and in fact any of the Cross Sports I've done don't even have a factory immobilizer, you might want to consider having an aftermarket immobilizer fitted, they're not expensive.

Cheers.

Cheers for the reply.Your stuff looks top quality.You are correct Timpsons keys didn’t fit! The key doesn’t go deep enough into the barrel. I took it back and they tried to put more deeper grooves on it and they failed. TBF the gave me my Money back and were apologetic they were also very polite and tried to help so hats off to them. I have a chap popping in to see me this Friday and he’s mobile and reckons he can do the key and he reckons the fob you can add to the existing one yourself he’s referred me to you tube to pair the fob. I hope he can help. I would like to try yours however, I’m twitchy about the key getting lost in the post and I would be stuffed as I have no way of getting another key as I don’t have any code a lot of the paperwork is in Japanese.

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Btw they only charged £15 for 2 however, they didn’t have the bit of black plastic very thin metal and I was a bit concerned they would snap off in the ignition

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Cheers for the reply.Your stuff looks top quality.You are correct Timpsons keys didn’t fit! The key doesn’t go deep enough into the barrel. I took it back and they tried to put more deeper grooves on it and they failed. TBF the gave me my Money back and were apologetic they were also very polite and tried to help so hats off to them. I have a chap popping in to see me this Friday and he’s mobile and reckons he can do the key and he reckons the fob you can add to the existing one yourself he’s referred me to you tube to pair the fob. I hope he can help. I would like to try yours however, I’m twitchy about the key getting lost in the post and I would be stuffed as I have no way of getting another key as I don’t have any code a lot of the paperwork is in Japanese.

Cheers.


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What exactly has he pointed you towards on YouTube regards pairing? 😳 Whatever you do, don’t let him leave or hand over any money until the key is actually paired to the cars remote central locking system properly.


Btw they only charged £15 for 2 however, they didn’t have the bit of black plastic very thin metal and I was a bit concerned they would snap off in the ignition

Cheers


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£15 for two non-immobiliser, non-remote keys is about right, but they couldn’t even get that right, it’s simple stuff. 🤦‍♂️ They very likely haven’t used the correct NSN14 blade.

You seem to be going around in circles here and I’d like to offer you a simpler solution if it helps. If you like, I’ll send you a blade of the correct type, you can take it (somewhere else) to be copy cut from your own, then just check it turns the barrel and send me back the blade and I’ll make you up a new key, as your car has no immobiliser I don’t need your original remote key in order to make up a new one.

Just an option for you.
 

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What exactly has he pointed you towards on YouTube regards pairing? 😳 Whatever you do, don’t let him leave or hand over any money until the key is actually paired to the cars remote central locking system properly.





£15 for two non-immobiliser, non-remote keys is about right, but they couldn’t even get that right, it’s simple stuff. 🤦‍♂️ They very likely haven’t used the correct NSN14 blade.

You seem to be going around in circles here and I’d like to offer you a simpler solution if it helps. If you like, I’ll send you a blade of the correct type, you can take it (somewhere else) to be copy cut from your own, then just check it turns the barrel and send me back the blade and I’ll make you up a new key, as your car has no immobiliser I don’t need your original remote key in order to make up a new one.

Just an option for you.
Mozza you are a top bloke. Good scheme. However, the auto mobile key man came to ours today. He programmed in his mobile workshop (what a machine) a new key that works perfectly. I bought a fob off e bay and he tried to programme that no joy.

He checked up and found that the frequency used in Japan is totally different to the Uk. He has found a key with remote on the correct frequency and ordered it.

Chap was very helpful and was at ours fir over 45 minutes.

He charged just under £40 for a good quality robust key.

I’d just like to thank you all on here for your as usual, dead helpful posts and fir your kind offer. Top people.

Thanks a million.

ATVB

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Not a problem but I’m a little confused.

That’s correct, the imports run on 315mhz, Europe use 433mhz.

He’s programmed what exactly? Your car has no immobiliser, and therefore no transponder chip in the key to program and by the sound of what you’ve said the key you’ve paid for isn’t a remote key either, they’re ordering one in for you, £40 for a purely physical key is very steep.

What are they charging you for the remote key, when they get it, did they say?

Anyway, if you’re happy with that then that’s the main thing, just interested as there’s no programming involved in what you appear to have been sold, yet you mentioned “he programmed a key”?

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Cheers. I bought a spare fob for a Forester off e bay. He tried to add it to my existing key fob frequency. Thats when he found that it was 2 different frequencies.

He has ordered key with a fob on Japanese frequency.

I wont know how much until he supplies and fits it.

I thought £40 for coming to yours was ok, you think its a bit expensive?


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Cheers. I bought a spare fob for a Forester off e bay. He tried to add it to my existing key fob frequency. Thats when he found that it was 2 different frequencies.

He has ordered key with a fob on Japanese frequency.

I wont know how much until he supplies and fits it.

I thought £40 for coming to yours was ok, you think its a bit expensive?


Cheers

Alan

Hey Alan.
Yes, it is expensive, you could have gone down the local shoe repair shop and got your current key copied for about £5, a plain metal basic key is all you need to open the door and start your car given that it has no alarm or immobiliser (hence I mentioned you might want to consider getting an aftermarket immobiliser).

I don't understand why he's having to order anything, an auto locksmith should have blank remote keys that they can apply the correct remote configuration required to, in your case 315mhz FSK, with specific Subaru algorithm using whatever system he uses. This is how it's done, otherwise they'd need to keep remote keys for every make and model of car they cover which would be thousands. It doesn't really make sense.

Also, you mentioned they showed you a YouTube video on how to pair a "fob" to your car? Can you share the link to the video and I'll tell you if you're both barking completely up the wrong tree like I suspect you are.

I hate to see people wasting money so how about send me the key they made for you (now you have a spare, assuming it both opens the car door and starts the ignition?) and I'll make you up a nice new remote flip key gratis, just cover the £7 return postage and put what you would have spent on a remote key towards a CAT 2 stand alone immobiliser like this:

https://www.southerncarsecurity.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=96_37&product_id=65

Alternatively, best of luck with it.
 

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Evening Muzza

Thanks for the suggestion.

The man is coming back next week to do it so we shall see.

The you tube one is the open door, sit down turn it on several times without start the engine in 15 seconds then horn goes and click fob to tune in.

If he can’t solve it next week I will pm you.

Cheers

Alan
 
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