[rolzrex]

And that doesnt throw it into limp mode? Cruise control and ABS still function properly?

 

[tallazzPilipino]

Nice writeup!

However, I wonder how things behave on post '05 (only euro?) models employing canbus blah-blah between ECU-TCU, at least on paper.

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sorry, i can't confirm.

Excellent writeup! I'm also wondering whether this applies to canbus/6mt swaps as well?

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i think there was an earlier post with someone trying a 6MT.

And that doesnt throw it into limp mode? Cruise control and ABS still function properly?

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were you responding to forester06x?

 

[B8LWAGN]

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[tallazzPilipino]

the direction of your labeled wires.. did they go towards the firewall or towards the 4eat?

 

[B8LWAGN]

Is there any way you could get a picture of the wires you used?

 

[tallazzPilipino]

sorry. i'm out of town. i'll try to see what i can do when i fly back home in a day or two. but my harness is fully wrapped. also, i had first unpinned all my wires before i decided to reuse them in which i didn't remember where they all went, so some colours might not match up to their pin designations. but i'll go through my notes when i get back home.

 

[B8LWAGN]

Figured out what was up. Fixed. it works perfectly. Just gotta get it back together with the tranny in to see if the vss works for the 6 speed. Will Keep you posted.

 

[tallazzPilipino]

ohh.. i'm glad to hear. i was actually going through what photos i took and my notes. notes just shows what i originally posted, and unfortunately, i didn't get any snaps of that harness.

will you eventually be getting the DCCD working?

 

[B8LWAGN]

Yup I got the DCCDPro with factory controls on the way wwe will see how it goes. :grin2:

 

[tallazzPilipino]

nice! glw it.

 

[Tykog09]

i swapped an H6 into my 5MT Baja, and i'm having issues with the NSS working
it doesnt seem to matter that i have it connected to the P or N wire in the AT harness

anything else you had to do for yours or that was all?

 

[tallazzPilipino]

sorry. i'm trying to understand that - you swapped an H6 engine into your already 5MT Baja?

assuming, you're working with similar wiring to the 4EAT, what pins are you connected to at the AT harness? if 11 & 12, they're the same for both P and N (which i used for the clutch switch to be able to start the engine). for the NSS, you need to use pin 1 & 4 at the AT harness.

if you did just that, i'd check to make sure the NSS is good. they do go bad and aren't too much to replace.

 

[Tykog09]

sorry. i'm trying to understand that - you swapped an H6 engine into your already 5MT Baja?

assuming, you're working with similar wiring to the 4EAT, what pins are you connected to at the AT harness? if 11 & 12, they're the same for both P and N (which i used for the clutch switch to be able to start the engine). for the NSS, you need to use pin 1 & 4 at the AT harness.

if you did just that, i'd check to make sure the NSS is good. they do go bad and aren't too much to replace.

Yes, i have a 5MT baja, i swapped in an H6 from a 4EAT Outback Sedan. runs and drives.

i get the varying idle, i get P0866 of course.

i had the NSS wires connected to pins 1 and 4 but the car will still start in gear.

 

[tallazzPilipino]

sorry. i'm away from home often, so i don't have access to my resources. but if you already have a MT, i do know the clutch switch is wired differently - there's a relay inline. since i don't have access to my resources, i can't give more details than that. but since you do already have a MT, i would think it's already wired, no?

 

[Tykog09]

the whole wire harness has been swapped to the H6, computer and all, so is is basically like i put a manual in the H6 car.

i have the reverse lines working fine, working on the VSS but i think i have that figured out
the NSS however i'm still trying to make work, i had it hooked to the N and ground pins in the AT harness, but it didnt seem to matter, the car would still start, in gear or out.
i have a remote start on there and i want to be able to have the safety of it not starting when in gear.

 

[tallazzPilipino]

even in the AT, Neutral & Gnd are never connected. the TCU looks on pins 11 & 12 in order to be able to start the engine. That's either P or N. Did you include the TCU in your H6 harness as well?

either way, just connect your NSS to your clutch switch. when the clutch is up, that should physically open the circuit.

if you still have the MT-side wiring, i would merge the H6 wiring into it. it's complete and less headache.

 

[Tykog09]

even in the AT, Neutral & Gnd are never connected. the TCU looks on pins 11 & 12 in order to be able to start the engine. That's either P or N. Did you include the TCU in your H6 harness as well?

either way, just connect your NSS to your clutch switch. when the clutch is up, that should physically open the circuit.

if you still have the MT-side wiring, i would merge the H6 wiring into it. it's complete and less headache.

yes, the 11 and 12 pins will keep it from starting if they arent bridged, thats just the ignition interrupt, i suppose i can connect that to the clutch in switch. but that isnt really my issue so much as the computer knowing if it is in neutral or in gear. i'll keep messing with it i guess

 

[tallazzPilipino]

if you want the ECU (AT) knowing whether it's in P or N, it's pins 3 & 4 for P, and pins 1 & 4 for N. the AT ECU will need to know that to adjust fuel curve between P, N and in gear. but, that needs to go to the TCU which is relayed to the AT ECU.

 

[Superacerc]

So i havrnt sifted through all this but from the beginning when your obd2 port wasnt functional its because of the plug from your shifter in the car has an ignition inhibitor switch. If you dont jump it out or plug in the shifter temporarily, the ign on circuit on obd2 will not function making a flash tool think car is off......you may have already gotten by that...sorryif its covered.

 

[Superacerc]

If you truly ha e everything hooked up and working, and just want a clutch interrupt theres already a spot for thst on your ecu. Its connected permenently now but you would just clip the wires and rum the clutch switch in between.

I simply used the park/ground connection on the wiring harness on firewall to make the clutch switch indicate closed circuit when depressed or tell the car its in park.

I can put up the diagram for a 2009-13 foz but its likely slightly different than your ecu.

For the speed sensor, i used the three wires from the origonal speed sensor harness that went to the rear speed sensor....theres 3 on your tranny....one to ground (which there is a spot for on the old harness, and the other two to the speed sensor. My odometer works just like normal on my 09 with an 04 6mt.