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Turbo went bad just a little over 1000 miles after buying the car...

Estimate from shop, two grand for new turbo all the pieces parts and labor. All parts a from a dealer, parts and labor warranted....Does this sound right?!

Also found out steering rack and rear axle are both leaking. I feel like a giant shmuck.
 

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prolly - new td04 may be 1300 plus 4 hours to install plus gaskets, lines, etc.

you'd be better off getting a used vf series turbo and getting a tuning shop to install/tune it

I'd suggest checking the ic/oil for metal shavings - usually when the turbo goes, the engine goes not soon thereafter...
 

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prolly - new td04 may be 1300 plus 4 hours to install plus gaskets, lines, etc.

you'd be better off getting a used vf series turbo and getting a tuning shop to install/tune it

I'd suggest checking the ic/oil for metal shavings - usually when the turbo goes, the engine goes not soon thereafter...
I dont know of any such shop around here that will do that. I took it to the only "import" shop I could even find.
 

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prolly - new td04 may be 1300 plus 4 hours to install plus gaskets, lines, etc.

you'd be better off getting a used vf series turbo and getting a tuning shop to install/tune it

I'd suggest checking the ic/oil for metal shavings - usually when the turbo goes, the engine goes not soon thereafter...
Just ballpark, say i found a used vf series and found a tuner shop to do it, how much savings are we talking about? Half? Tuner shops not going to give me a guarantee on the work or parts will they?
 

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not sure - you may be able to get a used td04 for $300-500 on Nabisco, then 4 hours labor to install it so maybe half

the import shop should know this though
 

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I dont know of any such shop around here that will do that. I took it to the only "import" shop I could even find.
It would be helpful if you updated your profile with a location - you might just get some shop recommendations from people who may be local to you.
 

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not sure - you may be able to get a used td04 for $300-500 on Nabisco, then 4 hours labor to install it so maybe half

the import shop should know this though
a VF series turbo though, Im going to have to replace other parts as well? Its not as simple as, TDO4 off, VF series on?
 

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^ pretty much - you'd want to get a dp/up too tho
 

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A straight replacement should be manageable around $500 with a used td04. ($200 for the turbo, easily completed in 3 hours at ~$100/hour)

A vf swap could be done straight up on what you have for (~$500) for the turbo but you'd be leaving power on the table and it would still need to be tuned (~$500). The third option would be turbo (~$500), uppipe (~$50), downpipe ($300-too much), and tune (~$500). If you're feeling flush, an STi catback won't hurt anything and can usually be found for ~$100.

Check out this thread, and update your location so nearby members can help you out. I have a td04 in a box, doing nothing.

Option 1: $500
Option 2: $1000
Option 3: $1350-however much you want to spend.
Note: options 2 & 3 neglect labor
 

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A straight replacement should be manageable around $500 with a used td04. ($200 for the turbo, easily completed in 3 hours at ~$100/hour)

A vf swap could be done straight up on what you have for (~$500) for the turbo but you'd be leaving power on the table and it would still need to be tuned (~$500). The third option would be turbo (~$500), uppipe (~$50), downpipe ($300-too much), and tune (~$500). If you're feeling flush, an STi catback won't hurt anything and can usually be found for ~$100.

Check out this thread, and update your location so nearby members can help you out. I have a td04 in a box, doing nothing.

Option 1: $500
Option 2: $1000
Option 3: $1350-however much you want to spend.
Note: options 2 & 3 neglect labor

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So I bit the bullet and went with an OEM warranted fix. 12 month warranty on parts and labor. I just dont have then time or place to do the work and I need a dependable car. With work I'm putting 70 miles a day on my car.

Thanks for all the replies.
 

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So I bit the bullet and went with an OEM warranted fix. 12 month warranty on parts and labor. I just dont have then time or place to do the work and I need a dependable car. With work I'm putting 70 miles a day on my car.

Thanks for all the replies.
Hey man, I know exactly how you feel. I have an '04 FXT with 119,000 miles on it and the turbo just went out on it too. I tossed around a bunch of ideas and eventually settled on buying a new TD04 from my local Subaru dealership for a little over $1,000 and swapping it out myself (that way I don't have to deal with a tune and supporting mods, however the extra power would have been a lot of fun!). After pulling the turbo, I found the cat in the up-pipe had started to chunk apart and got sucked into the turbo, which is what ruined the turbo. Luckily, I read http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f87/how-go-faster-than-sti-cheap-8337/ and got a catless up-pipe from an '04 STI for $50.00 off Craigslist. The dealer recommended I pull the oil pan and clean it out, as well as replace the turbo oil feed screens. I bought all the parts from the dealer, saved all the receipts, and since I did exactly what they told me to do, I will have a one year unlimited mile warranty. The work took me a full weekend to complete. I now have about 600 miles on the new turbo, and it's working great. I hope you'll be able to say that soon too! Good luck on your Forester repairs. Let us know how it goes. : )
 

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Hey man, I know exactly how you feel. I have an '04 FXT with 119,000 miles on it and the turbo just went out on it too. I tossed around a bunch of ideas and eventually settled on buying a new TD04 from my local Subaru dealership for a little over $1,000 and swapping it out myself (that way I don't have to deal with a tune and supporting mods, however the extra power would have been a lot of fun!). After pulling the turbo, I found the cat in the up-pipe had started to chunk apart and got sucked into the turbo, which is what ruined the turbo. Luckily, I read http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f87/how-go-faster-than-sti-cheap-8337/ and got a catless up-pipe from an '04 STI for $50.00 off Craigslist. The dealer recommended I pull the oil pan and clean it out, as well as replace the turbo oil feed screens. I bought all the parts from the dealer, saved all the receipts, and since I did exactly what they told me to do, I will have a one year unlimited mile warranty. The work took me a full weekend to complete. I now have about 600 miles on the new turbo, and it's working great. I hope you'll be able to say that soon too! Good luck on your Forester repairs. Let us know how it goes. : )
Good call...I just called the shop and asked them to look at the sensor since they are going to have it apart...that would just be my luck...put a new turbo on and have the cat sensor fly apart into the turbo.

They wont do the work (epa) reasons, but if it looks about shot, I'll probably try that mod myself.
 

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*Update*

Shop is still waiting on parts from the dealer...Hopefully will be in tomorrow. I talked to the shop today and it sounds like its a good thing we went by the book...the pulled the oil pan off and there were brass shavings in it. I'm hoping since i caught it early and towed it over there, theres no long term damage to the motor...I guess time will tell...

I miss my car. :-(
 

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uh....not good

I'd have them clean everything thoroughly - like the heads cam journals, pump etc and install a magnetic drain plug

have they checked for metal in the tmic?
 

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uh....not good

I'd have them clean everything thoroughly - like the heads cam journals, pump etc and install a magnetic drain plug

have they checked for metal in the tmic?

I'm honestly not sure. I know hes going by "the book" Whatever subarus version of "the book" is for a turbo failure. I know they pulled the oil pan and the intercooler, and oil filter, but beyond that I dont know what else they were checking.
 

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I'd definitely get a magnetic drain plug
 
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