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Old 04-27-2011, 07:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default OBD-II: Which logger and software to choose?

Hi all,
Sorry for the ‘newbie’-ness, but my head’s spinning a bit with OBD-II. Point me in the right direction please if this has been discussed or has FAQs elsewhere.

I have a diesel forester and have been following the DPF woes (threads).

I’m looking for an OBD-II interface to log data, plot graphs and observe in ‘real time’ and was wondering which one was best for my needs. I wish to log data, for graphing and analysis. I would be happy to post data as well (e.g. on Subaru Diesel Crew). Also, I’d like to graph and/or display data in ‘real time’ whilst driving e.g. on a PDA/phone (not just on the Forester, I have a cold-running Mazda 3 and would like to watch the water temp).

I’m tossing up USB vs Bluetooth (BT), but would prefer both as I have a laptop and also a Symbian phone (N95), also probably to obtain an android phone in the near future.
I’ve looked online at some cheapies on Dealextreme , e.g. the $52.99 BT unit (SKU 16921) due to its size. There’s a number of others of varying types (all ELM clones, no doubt). This of course would be for talking to a PDA/phone in the car. I’ve seen it (or very similar) elsewhere advertised though a named company as well.

I’ve also browsed online genuine ELM units, the Tactrix 2.0, OBDPro, OBDKey, All-in-One, Scantool OBDLink, Laplogger and Proscan. I read the hardware comparison from GLM Software (OBD 2007). Plus software from the aforementioned hardware companies, OBD2007 and also OBDscope (Symbian) plus Torque (Android).

I note ScangaugeII is standalone and therefore I have discounted it.

Some queries:
* Which hardware units and software programs do people recommend? And why (briefly)?
* What’s the best ‘in car’ phone/PDA solution? I assume BT is the way to go here?
* What’s the best logging solution? Laptop? USB or BT?
* I believe the USB will probably be faster in communication, esp. With the faster units, but how slow are the BT units? Can I log effectively with BT? Can I get a USB/serial to BT converter (e.g. from RF Modules Australia) and use that for BT? Can you plug your own BT modules in and save a bit of cash?

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Old 02-21-2014, 11:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I was searching and came across your post. Sorry to see no one responded to you. I'm now facing the same question for my 2007 XT.


Did you end up buying any of these you mentioned? If so, did you get a bluetooth unit, and which software did you pair it with?
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The PLX Kiwi works well. Or even cheaper is some of the $20-30 OBDII wireless interfaces sold on EBAY/Amazon. I use DashCommander with my I-phone. Alot of people use Torque for Android based units.
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Thanks very much - does the kiwi unit support all possible codes or only the odb2 standard codes?


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Lots of info about the Kiwi at:Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: PLX Kiwi Wireless ODB-II Scanner for iPhone & iPod. In particular, read the reviews.
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Scan gauge and ultra gauge are good for self contained observation.

Why do you need persistent logging?
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The Bluetooth dongle connectors seem more interesting and long term valuable. Plus I wouldn't be paying for a screen twice since id be reusing my iPhone or iPad as a screen. Plus I could pair it with my laptop too if I needed to get raw log output or use a different app.

But you missed my main question , for scan gauge and ultra gauge how well do they support the custom codes of subaru ECUs? (Eg. All, some or none?) if some, which ones?


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The Bluetooth dongle connectors seem more interesting and long term valuable. Plus I wouldn't be paying for a screen twice since id be reusing my iPhone or iPad as a screen. Plus I could pair it with my laptop too if I needed to get raw log output or use a different app.
iphone/ipad devices use WIFI as their connection
android devices or laptops can use bluetooth
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The Bluetooth dongle connectors seem more interesting and long term valuable. Plus I wouldn't be paying for a screen twice since id be reusing my iPhone or iPad as a screen. Plus I could pair it with my laptop too if I needed to get raw log output or use a different app.

But you missed my main question , for scan gauge and ultra gauge how well do they support the custom codes of subaru ECUs? (Eg. All, some or none?) if some, which ones?


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What custom codes? I don't know of anyone digging in to it. The only things I don't have and wish I did are oil pressure/temp and trans temp.
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Just a heads up, and I may be the only one, but I've had ZERO luck getting my ELM327 Bluetooth dongle to connect to my 2002 Foz.

Was just browsing CAN to USB cables actually and stumbled across this post.

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Curious... your public profile say '03, but you say '02 on this post. Is that correct?

Your '03 or '02 is OBD II & not CAN Bus. Perhaps that's your issue connecting to the ECM?

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Default bluetooth obd-ii device and loggers

Ahem,
Hi and sorry for the late reply, just came back and saw the thread replies by chance.

Yes I have had some success, on a 2010 Forester Diesel. I use the following:
  • a generic Bluetooth device, similar to this one
  • torque pro on android, can access extended/custom PIDs and log data
  • Wobd2 / obdiicrazy on WinXP, can access but can't seem to log the extended PIDs
Have a look at my thread Pitrack_1's Saga: DPF regens vs performance & economy loss especially the later posts to see what I've done.

Was even able to read out, log and clear a (hopefully random) fault code that popped up today.

Good luck!
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