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Old 01-26-2010, 04:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am in the process of removing the engine from a 1998 Forester (2.5 DOHC)
I have about everything disconnected. I am down to a couple things before I start prying. I have the manual for a 1999, but thats an 8 bolt tranny, this one is a 4.
In the pic below, what is the bolt that is on the left (as you are looking at it) that goes parallel to the pitch stopper bolt and perpendicular to all the other tranny-to-engine-bolts? (not pictured)
It is just to the left (in the picture) of the pitch stopper.
Additionally, do I have to remove the following? Remember its a 4 bolt.

pitch stopper (rear tranny/engine mount)
Starter and or solenoid
the bolt in question
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Im really stuck here, any help would be appreciated. Even more so if I could get the few pages in the manual from someone. I have purchased 3 manuals online, all were supposed to include instructions for the 1998 model, but dont ;(
add ht tp:/ / to the link above, apparently I dont have enough posts to link it. If someone could post it for me that would be great....
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Hopefully someone will have an answer for you because I unfortunately don't
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Are you pulling the engine, or dropping the transmission?

Unbolt the trans from the motor. Remove starter. Unbolt the pitch stop from the trans bracket. Unbolt the driveshaft and remove. Unbolt the trans cross member. Pull transmission back and drop down.

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removing the engine
so the starter does have to come off or just the bolt that goes through the bracket into the trans?
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Pull the starter off.

Are you replacing the transmission? It's WAY easier to replace the transmission if you drop the trans rather than pull the motor. The trans can be out lickety split.
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I wish, HG leak
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took apart pitch stopper, starter, and it wont budge. oh the fun. Im thinking I have missed something but I have been over it 5 times already.
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No you don't have to pull that bolt. It's for the pitch stop mounting bracket. Just remove the pitch stop itself, seperate the block from the trans and pull the motor out.
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took apart pitch stopper, starter, and it wont budge. oh the fun. Im thinking I have missed something but I have been over it 5 times already.
Assuming you don't have any bolts/nuts still holding the trans and the block together you'll need to use a pry or similar item to split the block from the bellhousing. I typically use an impact hammer with a chisel bit.
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thanks for the help guys. Success! I ended up using a HUGE flat head that I named "the judge" and a 2lb sledge!
few wacks and I was good to go.
It does not appear that the starter needed to be removed, only the top starter bolt.
The pitch stopper was not a hinderance either, but I think if it was not unhooked it would have bent when we lifted the engine off the frame?
All in all it took me about 8 hours to get this out. not bad at all IMO. If I hadnt got stuck not being able to separate the tranny it would have been more like 6.5!
ah well. fun week ahead. I will be doing the head gaskets, full inspection, replacing everything else that makes sense....timing belt (possibly just the idler/tensioners) guess I will see.
I'm sure I will have more questions!


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Success. Remember, installation is reverse of removal!

Jack the nose of the trans up when you lower the motor back in, then tilt the motor to match the angle of the trans. Use anti-seize on the dowels so it comes apart easier if there's a next time.
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I decided to go with a JDM 2.5 DOHC engine as a replacement. Ordered it today. Its gonna save me some time and money after its all said and done!
Hope to get and instal it tomorrow. Wish me luck...
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Put your current engine harness on it, or it won't save you any time, and likely give you a big headache.

You in Columbus?
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You mean swap the harness on the intake mani?
I planned on that. I have my old mani off, cleaned, and ready to put on the long block.
I went this route for a couple reasons. One, I have 185K on the motor...it has piston slap, and it has been run hotter than hell on multiple occasions.
I dont think the heads were cracked, I didnt get that far, but I think with it using over a quart of oil even before the HG went bad I was better off getting a new(er) bottom end. I really forgot about all that jazz until I started to take it all apart...hehe
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Cool. The whole manifold should swap right over without a hitch. I don't think there are any differences in coolant temp sensor setups...but have a looksee before you bolt it on. It's much easier to change those parts around when the manifold is off. If the JDM motor doesn't have the EGR on it, the port should be plugged on the drivers side head. Remove the plug and attach your tube to keep the ECU happy.

BTW....I've got a friend up here who just brought home a 95 Impreza for a 24hrs of LeMons project. He would be very-very interested in that tired old shortblock if you don't have plans for it.
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