Transmission/engine removal help! (w/pic) - Subaru Forester Owners Forum
User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-26-2010, 05:45 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 35
Car Year: 1998
Car Model: L
Transmission/engine removal help! (w/pic)

I am in the process of removing the engine from a 1998 Forester (2.5 DOHC)
I have about everything disconnected. I am down to a couple things before I start prying. I have the manual for a 1999, but thats an 8 bolt tranny, this one is a 4.
In the pic below, what is the bolt that is on the left (as you are looking at it) that goes parallel to the pitch stopper bolt and perpendicular to all the other tranny-to-engine-bolts? (not pictured)
It is just to the left (in the picture) of the pitch stopper.
Additionally, do I have to remove the following? Remember its a 4 bolt.

pitch stopper (rear tranny/engine mount)
Starter and or solenoid
the bolt in question
i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/james206/Engine_tranny.jpg
Im really stuck here, any help would be appreciated. Even more so if I could get the few pages in the manual from someone. I have purchased 3 manuals online, all were supposed to include instructions for the 1998 model, but dont ;(
add ht tp:/ / to the link above, apparently I dont have enough posts to link it. If someone could post it for me that would be great....
Surgical is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-26-2010, 05:53 PM
Forum Member
 
TC2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Delmont, Pennsylvania
Posts: 3,122
Car Year: 2009
Car Model: Forester X Premium
Hopefully someone will have an answer for you because I unfortunately don't

2009 Forester X Premium 4EAT

Respect The Wagon!

Last edited by TC2000; 01-26-2010 at 06:04 PM.
TC2000 is offline  
post #3 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-26-2010, 06:23 PM
 
BAC5.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Gaithersburg, MD
Posts: 10,482
Car Year: 2009
Car Model: Outback XT-B
Transmission: 5MT
Are you pulling the engine, or dropping the transmission?

Unbolt the trans from the motor. Remove starter. Unbolt the pitch stop from the trans bracket. Unbolt the driveshaft and remove. Unbolt the trans cross member. Pull transmission back and drop down.

Done.

09 SWP Outback 2.5XT 5MT 263whp, 337 lb-ft
BAC5.2 is offline  
post #4 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-26-2010, 06:30 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 35
Car Year: 1998
Car Model: L
removing the engine
so the starter does have to come off or just the bolt that goes through the bracket into the trans?
Surgical is offline  
post #5 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-26-2010, 06:31 PM
 
BAC5.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Gaithersburg, MD
Posts: 10,482
Car Year: 2009
Car Model: Outback XT-B
Transmission: 5MT
Pull the starter off.

Are you replacing the transmission? It's WAY easier to replace the transmission if you drop the trans rather than pull the motor. The trans can be out lickety split.

09 SWP Outback 2.5XT 5MT 263whp, 337 lb-ft
BAC5.2 is offline  
post #6 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-26-2010, 06:43 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 35
Car Year: 1998
Car Model: L
I wish, HG leak
Surgical is offline  
post #7 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-26-2010, 07:16 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 35
Car Year: 1998
Car Model: L
took apart pitch stopper, starter, and it wont budge. oh the fun. Im thinking I have missed something but I have been over it 5 times already.
Surgical is offline  
post #8 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-26-2010, 07:18 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Thornton
Posts: 180
Car Year: 2004
Car Model: Forester XT
No you don't have to pull that bolt. It's for the pitch stop mounting bracket. Just remove the pitch stop itself, seperate the block from the trans and pull the motor out.
wolfman79 is offline  
post #9 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-26-2010, 07:21 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Thornton
Posts: 180
Car Year: 2004
Car Model: Forester XT
Quote:
Originally Posted by Surgical View Post
took apart pitch stopper, starter, and it wont budge. oh the fun. Im thinking I have missed something but I have been over it 5 times already.
Assuming you don't have any bolts/nuts still holding the trans and the block together you'll need to use a pry or similar item to split the block from the bellhousing. I typically use an impact hammer with a chisel bit.
wolfman79 is offline  
post #10 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-26-2010, 08:15 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 35
Car Year: 1998
Car Model: L
thanks for the help guys. Success! I ended up using a HUGE flat head that I named "the judge" and a 2lb sledge!
few wacks and I was good to go.
It does not appear that the starter needed to be removed, only the top starter bolt.
The pitch stopper was not a hinderance either, but I think if it was not unhooked it would have bent when we lifted the engine off the frame?
All in all it took me about 8 hours to get this out. not bad at all IMO. If I hadnt got stuck not being able to separate the tranny it would have been more like 6.5!
ah well. fun week ahead. I will be doing the head gaskets, full inspection, replacing everything else that makes sense....timing belt (possibly just the idler/tensioners) guess I will see.
I'm sure I will have more questions!


Last edited by Surgical; 01-26-2010 at 08:23 PM.
Surgical is offline  
post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-27-2010, 03:41 PM
Forum Member
 
JStorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NorthEast Ohio
Posts: 237
Car Year: 98
Car Model: Forester
Success. Remember, installation is reverse of removal!

Jack the nose of the trans up when you lower the motor back in, then tilt the motor to match the angle of the trans. Use anti-seize on the dowels so it comes apart easier if there's a next time.

Jay Storm
JStorm is offline  
post #12 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-28-2010, 07:28 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 35
Car Year: 1998
Car Model: L
I decided to go with a JDM 2.5 DOHC engine as a replacement. Ordered it today. Its gonna save me some time and money after its all said and done!
Hope to get and instal it tomorrow. Wish me luck...
Surgical is offline  
post #13 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-31-2010, 07:35 PM
Forum Member
 
JStorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NorthEast Ohio
Posts: 237
Car Year: 98
Car Model: Forester
Put your current engine harness on it, or it won't save you any time, and likely give you a big headache.

You in Columbus?

Jay Storm
JStorm is offline  
post #14 of 20 (permalink) Old 01-31-2010, 07:52 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 35
Car Year: 1998
Car Model: L
You mean swap the harness on the intake mani?
I planned on that. I have my old mani off, cleaned, and ready to put on the long block.
I went this route for a couple reasons. One, I have 185K on the motor...it has piston slap, and it has been run hotter than hell on multiple occasions.
I dont think the heads were cracked, I didnt get that far, but I think with it using over a quart of oil even before the HG went bad I was better off getting a new(er) bottom end. I really forgot about all that jazz until I started to take it all apart...hehe
Surgical is offline  
post #15 of 20 (permalink) Old 02-01-2010, 04:23 AM
Forum Member
 
JStorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NorthEast Ohio
Posts: 237
Car Year: 98
Car Model: Forester
Cool. The whole manifold should swap right over without a hitch. I don't think there are any differences in coolant temp sensor setups...but have a looksee before you bolt it on. It's much easier to change those parts around when the manifold is off. If the JDM motor doesn't have the EGR on it, the port should be plugged on the drivers side head. Remove the plug and attach your tube to keep the ECU happy.

BTW....I've got a friend up here who just brought home a 95 Impreza for a 24hrs of LeMons project. He would be very-very interested in that tired old shortblock if you don't have plans for it.

Jay Storm
JStorm is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Subaru Forester Owners Forum > Technical Forums and Vehicle Assistance > Transmission and Driveline

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Subaru Forester Owners Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome