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Old 08-19-2011, 08:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm just wondering about this band adjustment I have read about it but just can't really fully put it together because I'm always searching on google or on forums and you can't ever find anything but can I do the adjustment on my 01?
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When you say band, what are you refering to? Sorry if theres a slight language barrier here... i cant say ive ever heard people refer to something on cars as a band ... are you refering to the fan belts?
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I'm just wondering about this band adjustment I have read about it but just can't really fully put it together because I'm always searching on google or on forums and you can't ever find anything but can I do the adjustment on my 01?
Subaru's 4EAT doesn't have bands - it's all electronically controlled clutch packs, so there is no adjustment. Are you having trouble with the transmission?
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Old 08-19-2011, 09:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I guess there also called brake bands, I dunno for sure just seen it on other subaru forums when there trans slips a little. And ya I'm having a little trouble I knew when I bought it id be replacing the trans one day I bought it with 220,000 all highway miles it was a one owner woman got it for super cheap, if I'm running down the road a punch it it likes to rev high then catch finally I don't like that I can drive it fine without it doing that tho so it will be fine til I get a new one, what's my options with the auto tranny in models I can use from subaru?
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Sounds like the trans is just old and shot. 220k is ALLOT of miles lol.
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Ya it sure is but no smoke at all it runs great except that I was expecting it to be going bad tho, what transmissions can I go with in the auto? Its a s model.
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All the auto 4EAT trannys are basically the same for the 98-02 model year to the best of my knowledge. Have you tried changing out the transmission fluid to see if that makes a difference? Old dirty fluid will make it shift and feel cruddy.
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No I haven yet I jus bought it the 10th but ill jump on doing that, I had it on a lift yesterday I noticed all the filters were subaru brand so I'm thinking the women must of took it in always to get it serviced, should I use the subaru atf or can I use some other but good atf to change it with?
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You could easily find that it could be low fluid causing the issue/slippage. I'd do a couple of drain and refills and make sure it's absolutely perfect on the fill level. If it works, great. If not, then we can go from there.
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that will work ill start from there, im jus trying to get it prepared for winter mountain time, its my first auto i have ever had im liking it alot not having to always change gears etc. i just hope it turns out to be alright and not have to go down the road of changing trannys but if i have to thats no big deal just finding a tranny will be my hard part.
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There is a brake band adjustment that can be made, at least up to 1997 per the service manual I make no guarantees beyond that, I know it is on phase 1 4EATs and was removed on phase 2 4EATs. So when ever Subaru made the switch to the phase 2 in the Forester, if it ever got a phase 1 in North America at all..... I have played with it on a 1997 OB. It is a PIA to get to. Straight down the firewall on the drivers side, Look for a 8mm and 17mm(?) jam nut on the transmission case.

Here are the drive symptoms/cause for adjustment from the manual.
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1. BRAKE BAND

- If the following abnormal shifting conditions are noted in a road test, the brake band must be adjusted.
cause,-------------problem
1. Too wide,----- Upshift from 1st directly to 3rd gear occurs.

2. Wide,---- Engine rpm increases abruptly while upshifting from 1st to 2nd gear or 3rd to 4th gear.
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-----Time lag of at least one second occurs during kickdown operation from 3rd to 2nd gear.

3. Small,----- Braking” symptom occurs while upshifting from 2nd to 3rd gear.

4. Too small, -----Upshifts from 2nd to 4th gear and downshifts from 4th to 2nd gear occur repeatedly.



If you have the adjustment and choose to play with it. Be advised if you back the adjusting screw out too far, the bottom portion of the brake band may separate from the servo. You get to take your transmission apart to put it back together.
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now thats what i was looking for, when u did that how many turns did u go until u thought it was good? and what should that tighten nut be torque'd back at? i dont have a manual but i wish i did, does anyone have a download for one?
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We went about a 1/8 to 1/4 turn each time and it took several tries to get what "We felt" was good. Not sure where we finally ended up at but we did it many times. So I would say if I was doing it again I might try 1/4 to 1/3 turn increments. Not sure if there is room on the Forester to get at it or not with out dropping any thing.

Torque specs are at the bottom right of the picture for the nut, 18-21ft-lbs. There is no real easy way to get a torque wrench on it so we just winged it and I went to where I felt comfortable.
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Did you tighten it down or loosen it up?
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don't recall, it was over a year ago. None the less it depends on the symptoms
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