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Subaru Recall TKA17

I just got a recall notice from Subaru of America for the Front Passenger side air bag. It is part of the infamous Takata explosive airbag recall. The SOA recall instructs owners to NOT seat anyone in the front passenger side seat until the airbag can be replace when the part become available. Estimated replacement time DEC 2017. What am I going to do until then?


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Perhaps you can just unplug the weight sensor, under the seat, and fool the system into thinking no one is in the seat even when there is. I did that and the OFF light illuminates for the passenger side. I feel a bit more comfortable.

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My wife's 2012 outback is part of this it's a bummer I told her the timelines and she lol.
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Perhaps you can just unplug the weight sensor, under the seat, and fool the system into thinking no one is in the seat even when there is. I did that and the OFF light illuminates for the passenger side. I feel a bit more comfortable.
I considered doing this, too. However, after reading the owner's manual I discovered this.

& System monitors
A diagnostic system continually monitors
the readiness of the seatbelt pretensioner
while the vehicle is being driven. The
seatbelt pretensioners share the control
module with the SRS airbag system.
Therefore, if any malfunction occurs in a
seatbelt pretensioner, the SRS airbag
system warning light will illuminate. For
details, refer to “SRS airbag system
monitors” F1-58.

It seems that the seat belts and airbag are controlled by the same control module. It might be possible that the seat belts will not function properly if the airbags are not armed by the weight of the passenger in the passenger's seat. I will need to ask Subaru for clarification.
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Good point, which is why I said I only feel a bit better. I'll look further into the issue and post what I find here. Perhaps we can figure out some alternative to having to forego front seat passengers for what could be 6 months, or more.
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They should give you a loaner, and store your vehicle. My wife had a Honda loaner for 2 or 3 months.

Losing your passenger seat is a MAJOR inconvenience.

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I had it done in my Tribeca here in PA and they had the part in stock. I had a loaner for just 4 hours. It was almost too fast....but I liked my 06 Tribeca better than the 2016 OBW they gave me so it worked out well.

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Does anybody actually know what they take apart to change the airbag? I'm not talking about guessing what they take apart. I want to know what is removed. I am not a fan of somebody taking apart the dash area... always goes back less than OEM than before. Anybody actually see them doing the work?

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An excerpt of the recall.

I am not able to contact SOA directly. Their phones are very busy this morning!

An excerpt of the recall.

These vehicles are equipped with certain air bag inflators assembled as part of the passenger frontal air bag modules, and used as original equipment or replacement equipment. In the event of a crash necessitating deployment of the front air bags, these inflators may rupture due to propellant degradation occurring after long-term exposure to absolute humidity and temperature cycling.

Safety Risk

An inflator rupture may result in metal fragments striking the vehicle occupants resulting in serious injury or death
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Does anybody actually know what they take apart to change the airbag? I'm not talking about guessing what they take apart. I want to know what is removed. I am not a fan of somebody taking apart the dash area... always goes back less than OEM than before. Anybody actually see them doing the work?
The module replacement requires the removal of the entire IP upper to access the airbag module assembly so basically every trim piece in the front of the cabin is removed (A-pillar trim, lower dash trim, glove box, radio, instrument cluster, vent grilles, etc). Book time for the replacement of the igniter is 1.6 for a 09-12 Forester according to the TSB.


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thanks for that.^^ So they are going to take apart my whole dashboard???// ***. It won't go back the same. Blown airbags mean the car is totaled..... they don't replace them... so ... my car is totaled.
How Can I just disable the mofo and have the rest of the system working?

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Does anybody actually know what they take apart to change the airbag? I'm not talking about guessing what they take apart. I want to know what is removed. I am not a fan of somebody taking apart the dash area... always goes back less than OEM than before. Anybody actually see them doing the work?


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Shiit. So that goes back together without any rattles? Should've just bought a Ford or Chevy if I wanted the dash to rattle.

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How Can I just disable the mofo and have the rest of the system working?
The ODS and SRS are not designed to not be disabled. If you are genuinely concerned that you cannot operate your vehicle safely between now and your scheduled airbag service I would reach out to the retailer or Subaru CDS and see what they can do about getting you into a loaner vehicle until the safety recall work has been completed.

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Both our 2010 Outback and Forester had this done back in December/January. It only took them about 2.5 hours and there were no rattles/creaks in either. The tech said he has been doing one a day for months.
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