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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 01-22-2009, 02:49 AM Thread Starter
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Front 12V / Cigarette Lighter Not Working

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My front 12v / cigarette lighter has stopped working. I think I overloaded it with Satnav and fridge and it just stopped once whilst driving along.

I have tried changing the fuse in the front area (which I am told also is used for the side electric mirrors) - and whilst they still work the socket does not.

Can anyone point me to further areas to investigate this weekend, could another fuse be gone in that area or in the fuse box under the bonnet ?
Are there any trips that could have gone that need resetting or wires for melt down that can be checked ?

I've searched and searched the forums but can't seem to find this problem.

Forgot to say it is a 2002 Subaru All-Weather - UK Spec


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In addition to the fuse, there's a fusible link crimped into the the back of the of the socket. It's an additional fire hazard safety device. You'll have to remove the socket and crimp in a piece of solder in there. You could also use regular copper wire but doing so will also eliminate this safety feature.

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Thanks, will take a look at that. How do I get to the back of there ? , are there any guides?

I got a soldering iron etc. , so will just redo it is my current thinking.
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You won't need the soldering iron. The piece is crimped into the body of the socket holding it to ground.

As for access:

1) Remove parking brake trim
- open console lid
- pop off the screw caps
- remove the two screws
- pull up and back on the parking brake trim

2) Remove shift trim
- pull up and back ( you don't need to completely remove this part -- just
enough so that the you can remove the center console trim).

3) Remove center console trim
- remove ashtray
- pull out from bottom (there are 6 clips located close to the corners of the
trim -- two on the bottom edge, two on the top edge, and two on the side
edges toward the top corner).
- disconnect the wire to the cigarette lighter
- pull the piece out and repair
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Thanks , will try all that out Saturday and let you know how I get on.
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Well fixed it .... sort of !

I took it apart and the fuseable link looked fine, but there was definitely power in the lead heading to it , but not making it through.
Removed the fuseable link and just connected up direct and heh-presto power !

So it was the fuseable link, so tried to take it apart to re-con it and the thing just crumbled into pieces in my hands.

I have put the car together with the direct connect (so losing that bit of protection) and going to keep my eyes on e-bay or something for a replacement lighter socket for a Subaru so I can get hold of that bit as the dealers say you can't buy that bit on its own and I didn't even want to know how much Subaru charge for a spare lighter socket.

Thanks again to SubieHo for your help - tops !
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Congrats on getting it working, and thanks for following up.

I wouldn't worry about getting a new one as you already have a fuse for the device. I used a piece of copper wire to fix mine, and it's been problem free for several years.

However, if you're really concerned about the added safety, you could crimp in a section of 60/40 solder, which has a melting point of approximately 190 C (370 F).
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Well fixed it .... sort of !

I took it apart and the fuseable link looked fine, but there was definitely power in the lead heading to it , but not making it through.
Removed the fuseable link and just connected up direct and heh-presto power !

So it was the fuseable link, so tried to take it apart to re-con it and the thing just crumbled into pieces in my hands.

I have put the car together with the direct connect (so losing that bit of protection) and going to keep my eyes on e-bay or something for a replacement lighter socket for a Subaru so I can get hold of that bit as the dealers say you can't buy that bit on its own and I didn't even want to know how much Subaru charge for a spare lighter socket.

Thanks again to SubieHo for your help - tops !
Good work finding the fault, but bypassing a protection device is dangerous! The next time the wiring will start on fire if the main fuse doesn't blow quick enough. I would have done the "solder" like a previous poster recommended, since it would melt before the wiring...

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You should be good so long as you do NOT use it for a Cigarette Lighter element. That 'fusable' link is a HEAT FUSE. It's to protect the lighter in case it gets stuck in the 'IN' position and when it gets so hot, it 'opens' as to prevent a fire. That's why you don't find them on Accessory Outlets. Also acessory Outlets don't have the 'clamp' to hold in a lighter element.

They do also have an amperage rating, I might suspect that's why yours opened.

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Planning to try the same operation to bring the cigarette lighter in my 2003 Forrester back to life. Will only be using it as an accessory outlet. Sobieho's directions were for a 2002 Forrester. Hoping they will work on an '03. Is that a safe assumption?

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Planning to try the same operation to bring the cigarette lighter in my 2003 forester back to life. Will only be using it as an accessory outlet. Sobieho's directions were for a 2002 forester. Hoping they will work on an '03. Is that a safe assumption?
Welcome to the forum!

If you're located in lower 48 (you didn't fill out your Public Profile), you can have the cigarette lighter that I pulled out of my '03 X for the cost of shipping. AFAIK, it is in perfect condition, but since I never had a reason to use it, I don't know for sure.

I'm assuming you've check for power (+12) at the rear connector? No need to replace the part if the problem is elsewhere. I attached a wiring PDF to help you...

Shoot me a PM if you want it.

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You won't need the soldering iron. The piece is crimped into the body of the socket holding it to ground.

As for access:

1) Remove parking brake trim
- open console lid
- pop off the screw caps
- remove the two screws
- pull up and back on the parking brake trim

2) Remove shift trim
- pull up and back ( you don't need to completely remove this part -- just
enough so that the you can remove the center console trim).

3) Remove center console trim
- remove ashtray
- pull out from bottom (there are 6 clips located close to the corners of the
trim -- two on the bottom edge, two on the top edge, and two on the side
edges toward the top corner).
- disconnect the wire to the cigarette lighter
- pull the piece out and repair
Is this the same as for the 07 FXT models?
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Rommel, if the fuse is just behind the socket, you really only need to remove the shift knob (unscrew), shift surround (pull up from the bottom), and disconnect the socket's wiring on an 07 (plug)... unless the fuse is farther in but i don't think so..

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The problem on mine is that the lighter/charger is loose. I want to tighten the housing so it will stop from moving.

I bought a phone charger for my iphone which has a short adjustable neck. Once I put the phone on the charger it starts to get wobbly because of the receptacle being loose.
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Is this the same as for the 07 FXT models?
Some of the pictures & instructions I posted here on an audio upgrade may help.

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