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Old 08-26-2008, 10:45 AM   #751 (permalink)
 
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Audio, thanx for the advice, so what would you recomend... say on a quarter tank of 94 octane? a gallon of 100 octane? I'm not familiar w/ race gas.
Thought I'd contribute since I'm new to the board, but not to octane boosting...

Considering the negative potential of leaded race gace, you can just mix in toluene in with your pump gas instead. Toluene has an octane rating of 114. Some will make their own "home brew" with a bit of ATF (lubricating properties), but it is just fine to mix straight toluene with pump gas. I wouldn't go past 30% toluene/ gas mixture though, since gasoline has lubricants added to it and you want that for your engine.

Examples of Toluene mixed with 92 octane pump gas:
10% = 94.2 Octane
20% = 96.4 Octane
30% = 98.6 Octane
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Old 08-28-2008, 07:43 PM   #752 (permalink)
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hey head, what tire pressure are you runnin' when you're at the track?
About 32psi
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If your wondering why my time is so slow, but my mods list is so long, all I can say is 87 octane really restricts power... Especially if you un-knowingly based your custom road tune off a tank of 87 octane...
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:37 PM   #754 (permalink)
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Okay we are going to need more detailis than that! ^^^^ I would think even if you were just stage II with your trans mods you could have run a better time!
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If your wondering why my time is so slow, but my mods list is so long, all I can say is 87 octane really restricts power... Especially if you un-knowingly based your custom road tune off a tank of 87 octane...
so you put 87 in by accident?

please tell me you put the 87 in by accident...
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so you put 87 in by accident?

please tell me you put the 87 in by accident...

Well on my way to get road tune i stopped at a shell to fill up. I said Premium (93) and the kid started putting in regular, about 1/2 a gallon slipped in before I stopped him and reiterated that i wanted premium. So he started the pump over again with the premium button lit up, and my receipt said V-Power on it. So I and my Tuner assumed i had gotten premium, and we tuned all day. After we were done tuning the car felt alot slower, and less violent, i assumed it just felt slower because it was alot smoother, however after a couple weeks i suspected something had to be wrong.

So after going to the track and only running 14's, my suspicions were confirmed, and we came to the conclusion that it had to have been a bad tank of gas. While at the track my buddy who's learning tuning noticed the car was calling for all the timing it could, and there was no engine load. So we added 4 degrees of timing above 4500rpms and that got me down to the 13.8 you all see here. (That was at 18.5psi of boost)

Since that day at the track I got some new logs and my tuner sent me some true 93octane revisions and my car should be down into the 12's, hopefully if i can get to the track tomorrow i'll post up the results.
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did you happen to see how much boost you left the line with, or what gear you crossed the traps in?
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Well on my way to get road tune i stopped at a shell to fill up. I said Premium (93) and the kid started putting in regular, about 1/2 a gallon slipped in before I stopped him and reiterated that i wanted premium. So he started the pump over again with the premium button lit up, and my receipt said V-Power on it. So I and my Tuner assumed i had gotten premium, and we tuned all day. After we were done tuning the car felt alot slower, and less violent, i assumed it just felt slower because it was alot smoother, however after a couple weeks i suspected something had to be wrong.

So after going to the track and only running 14's, my suspicions were confirmed, and we came to the conclusion that it had to have been a bad tank of gas. While at the track my buddy who's learning tuning noticed the car was calling for all the timing it could, and there was no engine load. So we added 4 degrees of timing above 4500rpms and that got me down to the 13.8 you all see here. (That was at 18.5psi of boost)

Since that day at the track I got some new logs and my tuner sent me some true 93octane revisions and my car should be down into the 12's, hopefully if i can get to the track tomorrow i'll post up the results.
ahh - thats exactly what happened to me in NJ...right after the dyno tune on the LGT.

The attendant was on a cell phone and came over and just started pumping 87 into it. I ran over and shut the pump off and told him that i wanted 93. He was like"well you didnt say that". I told him about cell phones, gas pumps and taught him some new words. Luckily his cell phone didnt end up in the highway.
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ahh - thats exactly what happened to me in NJ...right after the dyno tune on the LGT.

The attendant was on a cell phone and came over and just started pumping 87 into it. I ran over and shut the pump off and told him that i wanted 93. He was like"well you didnt say that". I told him about cell phones, gas pumps and taught him some new words. Luckily his cell phone didnt end up in the highway.
sorry I know this is off 1/4 mile topic, but how do you like Cleo's tune now that its been a month or two? I'm probably gonna have him tune my car XT soon..
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did you happen to see how much boost you left the line with, or what gear you crossed the traps in?
I'm fairly certain i was well over 10psi on the launch, and i know i finished in 3rd gear... Now that i've got a real tune i expect to finish in 4th gear
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I doubt you'll end up in 4th. Do you have a high stall TC as well? I can't remember and there's no way I'm looking all the way back to the front to try to decipher the codes.
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I doubt you'll end up in 4th. Do you have a high stall TC as well? I can't remember and there's no way I'm looking all the way back to the front to try to decipher the codes.
I was going to say that as well then I remembered the 04-05 4EATs have 4.44 as opposed to 06- have 4.11 final drive

I went through the trap at ~6800 in third gear @ 115 mph on 225/45-17 drag radials..with the TC locked

by my math the same situation would be 106 mph at 6800 rpms with 4.44 FD, 115*4.11/4.44=~106

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I forgot about the different gearing.
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