1/4 mile runs vs. neighbors cars, need opinions. - Page 5

JCT · 07-16-2008, 07:29 PM

Try to keep it on the downlow. Be that guy who's just excited to show up and drive on a track - don't act like you've got a secret or they'll figure out what you've got.

Can't wait for this to unfold - We need more Forester videos!

Subscribed!

bigfil · 07-16-2008, 10:04 PM

Yes indeed. Please post videos of the decimation.

You won't have an issue here at all.

Good luck and God speed.

roxjohn · 07-17-2008, 07:53 AM

YES! August 20 I will be in Seattle area!
Please let us know the detailed time / location , so that I can be there

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(Too bad my FXT has to stay in Taiwan

)

Tuned200 · 07-17-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stan_t

I think those do high 13s. They are 3,600 lbs.

Stan

With a professional driver on a prepped course with the car being brand new. I would bet if its stock and has around 80,000 miles on it, it might do a 14.5 on stock street tires.

Mt brother has a 94 GT 5.0 and with DR's he didnt break into the 14's. But his car has like 179,000 miles on it.

So my point is that car should run 14's at best.

When I race my legacy, I air my tires to 40psi, rev the car to 4500rpms and start to let the clutch out, when I feel it start t engage, I let it all the way out and go wide open. I pull 60' times at 1.80 all day.

Have fun and lets see video

MudRunner · 07-17-2008, 06:04 PM

Subscribed! I've always wanted to see this. :D

Quicksilver · 07-17-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaty

Damn I wish I could be there to witness this. It's gonna be good. If possible pick the quickest car to go up against first. I found that heat soak would make my times slower as the day wore on. I agree, if you can get lighter wheels you would be better off. If you were closer I'd give you my 17" superleggs for the day, they are 17's with good rubber but weight the same as the stock 16" wheels.

PS if possible leave the car seat in the back. That's what I did, the Neon SRT4 guy was not happy when I beat him. Makes it that much more worth it :)

PS using ICE on the IC may be counter productive, if you get the fins too wet you will prevent quick evaporation which is the thing that really cools it down. Purchase a half dozen cans of canned air, turn the can upside down and spray the heck out of the fins with the liquid (say you just want to get the bugs off) Make sure you get a cheap brand. You want the type that lets the liquid out for the best cooling. Good brands have what they call a "spray anyway" valve that prevents liquid from coming out when it's upside down.

Peaty-
Ingenious! But maybe dangerous...active ingredient in canned air for computers and keyboards, etc., is propane!
But it sure would ice the fins!
-Quick

Integrity Performance · 07-17-2008, 07:41 PM

The jetta LOL
The RSX, could be an problem if he doesnt spin too badly off the line. But I seriously doubt it.
The cobra, will be hilarious. Thats a mid 14 second car AT BEST. The RSX will likely take him out.

Kill them. Have no mercy. Smash them like bugs. Send them home crying, I want to hear that all 3 cars have for sale signs on them the next day.

Integrity Performance · 07-17-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gandapanda

Wouldn't it be more beneficial to run higher psi in the tires like 44-45psi? It's not like traction will be a problem for the FXT. The extra psi's in the tire may give Chris the slight wheelspin he needs to launch w/ slight wheelspin and no bogging.

Lets hope that RSX-S doesn't show up w/ DRs.

Traction can be a HUGE problem on the front tires on the FXT. I get what feels like zero traction, horrible, violent wheelspin off the line on my front end, even when stock I had front wheelspin problems.

BTW, lose the 18s. 18s can add up to or more than 2 tenths to your ET. I have seen it happen. Regardless, you will definately be slower on 18s than 17s or smaller. Even at the same weight, 18s will effectively be heavier, due to where in the rotational mass the weight is placed.

Run like 22PSI up front and like 27 in the rear. That seemed to work best for me.

Integrity Performance · 07-17-2008, 07:47 PM

BTW, I wish my car was running, I would damn near drive up there to REALLY humiliate the cobra.

bodegabandit · 07-17-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Integrity Performance

Traction can be a HUGE problem on the front tires on the FXT. I get what feels like zero traction, horrible, violent wheelspin off the line on my front end, even when stock I had front wheelspin problems.

BTW, lose the 18s. 18s can add up to or more than 2 tenths to your ET. I have seen it happen. Regardless, you will definately be slower on 18s than 17s or smaller. Even at the same weight, 18s will effectively be heavier, due to where in the rotational mass the weight is placed.

Run like 22PSI up front and like 27 in the rear. That seemed to work best for me.

I read a report on unsprung weight and rotational mass once and was blown away by how it affects the physics of the car.

kinda makes you feel bad for the guys with 18's+ on a riced out civic cause they prolly dont know any better.

sea-scooby · 07-17-2008, 09:18 PM

I will be runnig my 02/03 WRX wheels. 16" and only 16.5 lbs.

Integrity Performance · 07-18-2008, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bodegabandit

I read a report on unsprung weight and rotational mass once and was blown away by how it affects the physics of the car.

kinda makes you feel bad for the guys with 18's+ on a riced out civic cause they prolly dont know any better.

The one guy on the Mazdaspeed Miata board I am on went from his stock 17s to lighter 17s and lighter tires, and gained 7whp. This is 7whp on a car that was making @170whp before that.

I also know a guy on Nasioc with a bugeye WRX (well, had a bugeye at the time) that went from his stock 16s to a set of 22lb 18s (you would be suprised, 22lbs isnt that heavy for an 18" wheel unless you spend 3k on them. Heck man a lot of 17s are 21lbs) and ran 2 tenths slower in the 1/4.

I know my 18s are going to hurt me. But I will have enough motor to deal with it and still be fast :) Not that I couldnt be faster. But looks are also a concern, and these 18s are SOOOO hot.

Integrity Performance · 07-18-2008, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sea-scooby

I will be runnig my 02/03 WRX wheels. 16" and only 16.5 lbs.

Perfect. That is what I was fastest on in my 02 WRX.

Peaty · 07-18-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bodegabandit

I read a report on unsprung weight and rotational mass once and was blown away by how it affects the physics of the car.

kinda makes you feel bad for the guys with 18's+ on a riced out civic cause they prolly dont know any better.

Good spreadsheet on the subject if you have not seen it.

bodegabandit · 07-18-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Integrity Performance

The one guy on the Mazdaspeed Miata board I am on went from his stock 17s to lighter 17s and lighter tires, and gained 7whp. This is 7whp on a car that was making @170whp before that.

I also know a guy on Nasioc with a bugeye WRX (well, had a bugeye at the time) that went from his stock 16s to a set of 22lb 18s (you would be suprised, 22lbs isnt that heavy for an 18" wheel unless you spend 3k on them. Heck man a lot of 17s are 21lbs) and ran 2 tenths slower in the 1/4.

I know my 18s are going to hurt me. But I will have enough motor to deal with it and still be fast :) Not that I couldnt be faster. But looks are also a concern, and these 18s are SOOOO hot.

18's arent bad on a car the size of the foz. Like you said though he gained 7 hp on a car that made 170 thats substantial

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What I think is funny is on a car like a civic with a fart cannon and mugen badges that doesnt make much power, and you see all these people putting stuff that slow it down like big body kits and wheels. I will bet that you will prolly buy good/light wheels and we all know that you will be making some power

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bigfil Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ummm ober dere Posts: 182 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yes indeed. Please post videos of the decimation. You won't have an issue here at all. Good luck and God speed.

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Integrity Performance Supporting Vendor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin TX Posts: 1,825 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 19 / 100%	The jetta LOL The RSX, could be an problem if he doesnt spin too badly off the line. But I seriously doubt it. The cobra, will be hilarious. Thats a mid 14 second car AT BEST. The RSX will likely take him out. Kill them. Have no mercy. Smash them like bugs. Send them home crying, I want to hear that all 3 cars have for sale signs on them the next day.

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Integrity Performance Supporting Vendor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin TX Posts: 1,825 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 19 / 100%	BTW, I wish my car was running, I would damn near drive up there to REALLY humiliate the cobra.