2009 Forester Rumors/News (merged) - Page 109

jtom · 12-17-2007, 07:43 AM

I believe most/all of the semi trucks driving on the roads are all diesel engines. Not every gas station is going to have diesel but I would say most/all stations near the highways will have them.

jtom · 12-17-2007, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sahunt

I'm not liking that stark white headliner/trim in the red car. Doesn't go with the dark gray interior at all. Let's hope they offer something off-white outside Japan.

-- Steve

I noticed that as well, I thought it was very odd that they would have an all black interior but then have the white trim. It looks very unusual.

neoshi · 12-17-2007, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jtom

I believe most/all of the semi trucks driving on the roads are all diesel engines. Not every gas station is going to have diesel but I would say most/all stations near the highways will have them.

yeah.. i drove around the other day looking for some near my immediate residence. it just seems i can't look in irvine for diesel. we're all outfitted with this single hose 87-91 only deal within irvine. though, 15-20 mins outside the city gets you diesel. i guess i'll just have to get a fill up everytime i go eat 2 lbs of shrimp in the same area.

higgledy · 12-17-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by neoshi

yeah.. i drove around the other day looking for some near my immediate residence. it just seems i can't look in irvine for diesel. we're all outfitted with this single hose 87-91 only deal within irvine. though, 15-20 mins outside the city gets you diesel. i guess i'll just have to get a fill up everytime i go eat 2 lbs of shrimp in the same area.

California does not represent the rest of the country. Nearly every gas station in the east sells diesel, gasoline, and even kerosene.

higgledy · 12-17-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dirteemac

I've come to use gas as a generic term for fuel. Still, what do you do when you're out of town and need more? Drive around till you find a place? lame.

Um, where do live? California?

higgledy · 12-17-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jtom

I noticed that as well, I thought it was very odd that they would have an all black interior but then have the white trim. It looks very unusual.

I love the white headliner. This is how BMW did their headliner in the 2002. I think it looks great.

higgledy · 12-17-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by woodsman

Looks as if they've dropped the numerous little storage compartments under the rear floor. Shame as I find these really useful in the current generation forester.

Does anyone else think this Forester is the same as the old Forester, only more cheaply made?

I mean, where is the improvement? Same engine, ****ty manual transmission, and I bet noisy interior.

Graham · 12-17-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dirteemac

Every time I see a huge noxious plume of smoke shoot out the exhaust pipe from a diesel powered car (and by car I mean any sort of automobile) I'm like, there's no way that's better for the environment. Plus I drove a friends mother's mercedes once and I'm just guessing here but it probably did 0-60 in about 10 minutes and felt like I was driving a hammer that went limp after a few seconds. Maybe they've advanced since then. This coupled with the fact that there don't seem to be that many GAS stations that carry diesel make diesel seem like an odd choice.

It's obvious you have no experience of modern diesel engined cars, and wouldn't buy one anyway, so why not just quit moaning about your imagined inability to buy the stuff?

silverxt · 12-17-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by woodsman

Looks as if they've dropped the numerous little storage compartments under the rear floor. Shame as I find these really useful in the current generation forester.

I don't know, to me it looks like there's a little loop/handle there in the back center of the floor similar to the one in my 05, which does have under floor storage.

Doug · 12-17-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by I Want Candy!

I don't see it so much as negativity but more that we all want and expect the best from Subaru.

Expectations are high and yet we see, not unexpectedly, more of the same in the new model (in terms of form and function).

Why would we expect "the best" from Subaru? Have they given us a reason to do so? I know most of us are fans of the Forester, but look at the recent models/redesigns they have given us; you won't find 100% agreement that they have been perfect. Expecting "the best" comes across like fanboy talk.

As for seeing more of the same in the new model in terms of form and function, if you polled the message board here you'd probably find that the majority of the members don't want significant changes in those areas. Just read the comments on this thread at any suggestion that the Forester will become taller, longer, heavier, etc. Everyone seems to want it to stay virtually the same, but better.

pleiad7 · 12-17-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jtom

I noticed that as well, I thought it was very odd that they would have an all black interior but then have the white trim. It looks very unusual.

It's not white, it's light gray. I think the flash photography just makes it look lighter than it really is.

The Rookie · 12-17-2007, 08:03 PM

I find it ironic that Subaru are talking the Forester from its current niche into the same 'me too' niche as all the other 'soft roaders' when LR have a concelt going the other way http://www.topgear.com/blogs/planett...vers-new-baby/

Couldn't agree more about Diesels, anyone who thinks like dirteemac has never seen a modern common rail Diesel - oh actually he probably has but didn't realise it as there was no black smoke just oodles of torque that would easily embarres an FSTi.

Simon

jtom · 12-17-2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pleiad7

It's not white, it's light gray. I think the flash photography just makes it look lighter than it really is.

It probably is actually grey. The color difference still looks dramatic.

dirteemac · 12-17-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rookie

I find it ironic that Subaru are talking the Forester from its current niche into the same 'me too' niche as all the other 'soft roaders' when LR have a concelt going the other way http://www.topgear.com/blogs/planett...vers-new-baby/

Couldn't agree more about Diesels, anyone who thinks like dirteemac has never seen a modern common rail Diesel - oh actually he probably has but didn't realise it as there was no black smoke just oodles of torque that would easily embarres an FSTi.

Simon

Well I live in America so how would I be familiar with modern diesel engine cars? The only diesel cars I notice are old mercedes and F150's.

I Want Candy! · 12-17-2007, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug

Expecting "the best" comes across like fanboy talk.

I expect the best in most things so if that is being a fanboy, I am.

Expecting the best in something rarely means perfection. I'm after the best Subaru can do.

I do expect the best from Subaru because I want my next vehicle to be a Subaru.

I didn't say they have achieved close to that or that they will in the future but I can hope they will.

I agree about the current size for my needs (and have said so many times). However, there are advancements to be made in design and technology (the new diesel for example). There are many aspects that most owners on here would love to see improved, your comment was "don't want any"

By your reckoning the Subaru Forester should remain the same for the next 20 years

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The Rookie Simply the best Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Warwickshire, UK Posts: 6,608 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 1 / 100%	I find it ironic that Subaru are talking the Forester from its current niche into the same 'me too' niche as all the other 'soft roaders' when LR have a concelt going the other way http://www.topgear.com/blogs/planett...vers-new-baby/ Couldn't agree more about Diesels, anyone who thinks like dirteemac has never seen a modern common rail Diesel - oh actually he probably has but didn't realise it as there was no black smoke just oodles of torque that would easily embarres an FSTi. Simon __________________ 98 S-turbo, next mod decat D/P and hybrid turbo!

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jtom Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Where Two Rivers Meet Posts: 600 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I believe most/all of the semi trucks driving on the roads are all diesel engines. Not every gas station is going to have diesel but I would say most/all stations near the highways will have them.