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Old 06-16-2010, 06:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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G'day all,

I have a question regarding central locking remotes for my 1999 Forester. Firstly, a bit of background:

I have a 1999 Forester GX, 79V Series. When I purchased the vehicle from a car yard (many years ago now) I was not given any remotes, only the regular key with the immobiliser transponder in it.

When I was recently under the dashboard to solve another issue, I noticed that I do have a factory keyless system already fitted and connected. This unit displays "Alpha Corp. Japan" along with its relevant part numbers.

I have obtained a quote from my local Subaru dealer for a remote to suit this model, which was in the region of $280.

My question is - is there an aftermarket remote that I can purchase and program to work with the "Alpha" keyless control unit? If yes, has anyone actually successfully performed this operation, specifically for a 1999 model?

I have been doing much forum-surfing, and it seem our counterparts in the U.S.A have had some luck. But it also seems that the control systems used in the US models are different to the Australian ones. I keep coming across "Alpine" and "Code Alarm". This web page - ww.cars101.com/subaru/keyless.html - is referred to quite a bit, but unfortunately the information on it is not relevant to the "Alpha" unit.

$280 just seems a little excessive for 1 remote, more so when it doesn't have any bearing on vehicle immobilsation, only the central locking system.

Any information that anyone has would be most welcome.

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It certainly is expensive! I don't know of any alternatives but hope someone here can help out. Have you had a chat with an auto electrician?
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G'day Kevin,

Thanks for the reply. Yes, you could have knocked me down with a feather when I got that quote!

I have tried many auto-electricians and a few of the Car Stereo / Alarm places with mixed results - some of them didn't know / wasn't their area, and the ones that seemed to know all about it weren't very forthcoming with the details

If it comes to the crunch, what I will end up doing is installing an aftermarket keyless system - crazy thing is that it will cost me less to get a new unit with presumably 2 remotes than buying just one remote for the existing unit.

But I will persist with this for the moment - I like a challenge!
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Yes, it's unfortunate but remotes tend to vary across national markets to a greater degree than most everything else, due in large part to differing national regulations pertaining to use of the radio spectrum. eBay would be a long shot, but it might produce something if you're lucky.
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Yes, that's what I am finidng out in the course of my research - different countries do have different regulation with frequencies.

As it happens, I do have a friend who recently purchased an aftermarket remote from eBay. It was from the U.S and I think the name on it was "Keyless Ride" or something similar.

So I can give that a go to test it out, but I still need to find the sequence to put my unit into "programming" mode.

I have located the two white connectors behind a panel below the dashboard. These apparently need to be connected before adding a new remote. But I don't know the actual sequence beyond that, ie: turn on key / turn off key, doors open / closed, etc.
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Owners manual?

Already some of the things you're describing wouldn't apply to the US models. No connectors involved here.
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The only manual I have is the standard Subaru Owners Manual that came the vehicle, but the section on the keyless / doors is very brief, and unfortunately doesn't go into any additional detail above "press the button to unlock the door"

Regarding the connectors - it seems to be more prevalent on the Australian models, particularly in the Impreza range.

From what I have read, I believe that other markets utilise something called a "Valet" button. Essentially, this "Valet" button can perform a same operations as if I were to connect the 2 white connectors. It seems that on the a lot of the models here they didn't bother connecting them to an actual button, but by connecting them manually it will simulate the operation of the Valet button - just not as conveniently
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would it be worth getting an alarm put in to it? hook it in to your remote central locking system, push button doors unlock. plus the added security of having alarm, and lower premiums....
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I have the same problem with my 2000 Forester and have similar quotes from Subaru.
I'm still looking for an answer
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Did you have any luck? I also have a 1999 Forester without any working remotes (the only one we got with the car was ruined when the previous owner took it in the surf). Our local Subaru dealer quoted $400 (!!!) for a replacement remote. I've also thought about installing an aftermarket keyless system, but would much prefer to use the existing system if only I could find a cheaper remote.
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I hav had the same issue, purchased a 1999 with no remote. Been told by the local locksmith that an aftermarket job can't be done for this year in particular, changed with 2001 model I think he said. So went to Subaru and they said $400!! Thinking of getting an alarm put in instead, cheaper methinks!
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First post as a Forester owner (I've got plenty of other Subarus out front)

I cannot say for sure if the Australian market Foresters are the same but I can tell you that the US Foresters from 95-99 used the Code Alarm unit while the 2000-2004 used the Alpine unit. Remotes for both units are really easy to find new and used especially if you don't mind another car brand being listed on the remote (I use a Ford and a Mitsubishi remote for my 99 Forester)

Edit: During a search I found this information specific to Australia that may help. Since I am a "new" member I cannot post a link so instead I'll quote


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NON-US Foresters, 1997 to at least 1999, standard keyless central locking remote control only, no alarm.
How to find:
Call up your local wreckers until you find one. May take a while, but someone would keep them ( I found one after all). Cost about 30 Australian Dollars used from a wrecker, cost new 285 Australian Dollars from the Dealership plus 30 Aus Dollars reprogramming.

How to program:
Undo the plastic door sill protector (driver door with right hand drive model)
Undo the trianglish plastic plate at the front of the sill protector, right to your gas pedal just at the lower front corner of the doorframe
Hidden under the plate are two cable ends with plastic plugs, possibly clear/whitish. Connect (doesn’t matter whether the window is up or down, the door closed or shut, or the key in ignition or not)
Press “Lock” on the working remote, then immediately afterwards “Lock” on the new one. Then press “Open” with the working remote and straight afterwards “Open” with the new one.
Picture of the supposed remote is here cars101.com/subaru/Foresternotus1.JPG

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