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Old 12-03-2009, 10:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 07 side mirrors with turn signal ?'s

So i finally received the parts i need to get our subbie repaired and i was browsing through the forum to check the wiring of the 07 xt mirrors with signal lights and noticed that the ones i received has the two "black" wires for the heated mirrors but the mirrors themselves do not have that "heated sign" that can be most commonly found in other heated mirrors.

so question is, to those who have heated mirrors, do yours have the "heated sign" etched on the glass?

here's the wiring on our new mirrors :)


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here's the link/thread where i found the wiring info: Installing '06 Mirrors on '05 Forester

the info itself:

2006+ Subaru Forester
Side View Mirrors with Heat & Turn Signal

Mirror side of wires

Right Side
White = + Turn Signal
Green = - Turn Signal
UP = pink-, yellow+
DOWN = pink+, yellow-
LEFT = purple+, blue-
RIGHT = purple-, blue+
Heat = Black+, Black-

Left Side
White = +Turn Signal
Green = - Turn Signal
UP = Pink+, Yellow-
DOWN = Pink-, Yellow+
LEFT = Purple+, Blue-
RIGHT = Purple-, Blue+
Heat = Black+, Black-
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good to see some one uses the info i compile
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good to see some one uses the info i compile
of course and thanks for that too.

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ok, i know someone here knows the answer to this or possibly have wiring diagrams that i need.

in a nutshell > i'm installing 07 xt mirrors with heat and turn signal to a base 2006 X that has no heat and turn signal. the wiring for the turn signal and heaters are somplie enough since they need to be hooked up separately from the mirror motors, the mirror motors are the bummer part since i do not have any white paper references that i can go to.

Here's a pic of the 2006 X base mirror wiring harness:



there are only 3 pins on the harness itself and the wires are:

-green with white stripe
-blue
-white
-light green


the green with a white stripe wire goes to the same pin as the blue wire, so basically they are connected at the end of the harness. the light green and white wire each has their own pins.

the wires on the 2007/2008 XT side mirrors:

- white (turn signal +)
- green (turn signal -)
- purple
- blue
- pink
- yellow

- black (heater element; polarity unknown)
- black (heater element; polarity unknown)


the 4 wires (purple, blue, pink and yellow) all have their own pins and are separate from each other.

So, how do i go about tying in the wires from the 06 X base mirror with the 07/08 XT mirror? anybody have a wiring diagram of both vehicles?


******* all details specified are from the right/passenger side mirror.


i will be compiling the data here on this thread too and will be posting pics of the install once i get everything back in order. It'll be a good read for those who would want to do the same to their base models.
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polarity on the heating element doesnt matter well for mine it didnt,

ur first pic is on the car
2nd is the mirror side?

i dont know about you but i used a 12Vdc powersupply to find out what was what when i did my mirrors

Sorry couldnt help.
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pics are both from the mirror itself..

if the newer mirror (with heat and turn signals) had two common motor wires then it would be too much of a pain to figure out which wire can do what.. the thing is that one wire can have two polarities depending on the direction you point the knob to. i dont know if the motor on the newer mirror is the same with the base model.

still searching for wiring diagrams but still cant find any
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See if this helps.
Also, my 08 doesn't have the "heated sign" on the mirror either.
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See if this helps.
Also, my 08 doesn't have the "heated sign" on the mirror either.
hmm.. i'm having trouble reading the diagram due to the color scheme of the wires like "RY" for instance, is that red yellow? or the "RB", "RL", etc..

i'm not familiar with subaru abbv. colors at all

oh, and it looks like its for an older model?

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No problem, glad to be of help.
The manual is supposed to be for MY07 forester.
Yes, your interpretation of the color code is correct.
Here's another pdf.
The color coding is on pg 6, later pages have explanation for other symbols and abbreviations.
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it looks like if you have two upper case letters together that means you have two separate wires joined at that point?
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According to pg 7 of the second pdf, the first letter is the primary color of the wire, the second is the color of the stripes.
So RY, for example, would be red wire with yellow stripes.
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gotcha..


hmm.. they must've changed something as none of the two kinds of mirrors that i have has red wires on them.
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