toddlamp

I know that a lot of you have TomToms out there and i'm looking to do a custom install project on my motorcycle. For this I plan on taking apart a TomTom One (assuminly the smallest TomTom out there) and do some body work to get it installed.

Now, I bought my GF a TomTom One a little while ago but i'm not sur what version it is. It does have the SD card slot so I know that it's not the 3rd edition. Since I was going to be hacking it apart I was going to get the cheapest I can find, but could someone please explain the differences between the versions? What is the SD card slot supposed to be used for and why does'nt the 3rd edition have one?

Also if someone has one forsale i'm in the market right now.

Thank.

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Subyroo

toddlamp, I bought this TomTom and it works treat, the best thing is it has a 2GB SD Card expansion slot as well and I have read of people using a 4GB SD Card in it but I haven't tried that yet as mine works fine on the internal memory as it is.

Just don't believe the anti-glare screen bull dust as I had to buy a GlareStomper shield to be to see mine mounted above the dashboard bin in the Forester but my eyesight isn't as good as you young guys have either.

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MY03 XS 5SP White/Metallic Grey "Casper"

toddlamp

I already know that I want a TomTom One but I don't know which edition to get. My gf has a 2nd edition (I think) that has an SD card slot. My question is what are people using the slot for? Why does the newest edition not have an SD card slot and is the newer addition better that the others? If its better in some way does that out weigh the loss of the SD slot?

There has to be something that is different between the different version, does anyone know?

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JV-Tuga

I think the SD card is used if you need to add maps, voices and so on, in excess of the internal memory. I have Tom Tom on my smartphone and just yesterday bought a Tom Tom One XL for my dad. On my smartphone I used the SD card to add Europe to the standard Canada/US.

toddlamp

That's what I figured. Are there any hardware or software(that can't be changed via update) differences between the 1, 2, and 3rd editions? I know that the 1st and 2nd editions have the SD card reader and the 3rd edition is compatible with the RDS-TMC Traffic Receiver. What else is there? I checked but I can't find a side by side comparison list.

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Subyroo

Toddy, there are more experienced TomTom users on this site than I will ever be so put your question to them over there.

I believe there is a difference between the chipsets used on different models too so don't forget to ask which chipset is the better one too.

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Peaty

I have the TT one and got one for my father in law. To be honest I get confused between the different TT ones. AFAIK the Version1 never made it to the US. There is a version (2?) that has an SD chip only no internal memory. Lots of people like this one (one I happen to have) because it can use larger cards like 4GB, then it gets sketchy. My Father in laws had 1 GB internal memory and an SD slot. From what I understand the slot will take over for the internal memory not add to it so you have to move everything over to the card if you want to use one. The OS and everything. There is also a version that has no slot and only 1 GB of internal memory. That one is the least desirable but I'm not sure which one that is. Like the man said check out the Tomtom forums, I found a lot of good info over there.

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Peaty

2010 Legacy 3.6 R - Limited

2006 B9 Tribeca - Limited

1999 Miata - MX5

toddlamp

Thanks Peaty, i've been checking it out. The one that I got my GF has 1GB internal and the SD slot. She said that she is going to give me that one but since it appears that it is the most desirable I feel bad hacking it up. I think I might try to find a broken one or get a 3rd edition to test my install on.

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bbottomley

TomTom really botched their upgrade procedure, both hardware and software, and their nomenclature as well. It was painful watching all this get rolled out.

The TomTom One #1 is obsolete and has been for a while. The #3 (all silver bezel) has no SD slot and hence can't take substitute maps (Europe) or ones that are too large for the internal memory (North America, which is a more detailed version of the built-in US/Canada map). The "LE" appears to be a rehabbed or left over and repackaged #2 (black and silver bezel) with software upgraded to the current level. But any of the previous #2s that have been in use could also have received the same upgrades along the way. Software upgrades are free; map upgrades cost. Unfortunately some of the upgrades interfere with some of the nice third party software that's out there.

The SD card replaces the internal memory; it doesn't add to it.

All this info is a bit dated by now. I was a regular on the TomTom forum till a while after my trip to Italy last fall. Then I slacked off as I had no immediate big travel plans ahead of me. I'll get back into it as I prepare for England and Scotland next fall.

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Peaty

Todd, I have a NavCam that will run the TT software you can have super cheap if you want to try and mess with it. It runs windows CE I think you may know about this unit there is a whole bunch of info here:

Randy’s random musings » Evesham Nav-Cam 7700

Just a thought

Woot info here:

Woot: The Community: Evesham Nav-Cam 7700 Touchscreen GPS

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toddlamp

Been there done that :)

Only problem with that is when the power goes dead so does the TT software. I actually have a NavCam here if you're interested in another one.

I am looking to have the TT set to be directly connected to the bike with no internal battery.

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bbottomley

Get a USB cigarette lighter adapter and a mini USB cable. Both dirt cheap on eBay. Split the adapter open, attach two wires, and hard wire it into the bike.

If the vertical orientation of the mini USB plug on the bottom of the TomTom is awkward, you can get a right angle (meant for Motorola Razrs) on eBay.

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toddlamp

Thanks Bruce, I think that's what i'll do. However, I have run into some issues. What I was going to do was hardwire (into say the headlight or turnsignal)it to the bike as sugested and disconnect the battery, so that when the bike goes off so does the TomTom. For the most part this would be fine except that if I am on a route and the power is lost so is the route.

But if I were to hard wire it to the bikes battery it would be on all the time. While I could, of course turn it on/off as needed i'm looking for something that is a little less maintenence. Plus I wouldn't want it to drain my battery if I forgot to turn it off and didn't ride for a few days.

So what I am looking to do is hardwire it to the bikes battery, with the internal battery intact, AND have it start up and power down properly when the bike is turned on/off (basically when external power is applied or removed). I'm not sure if there is something I can build to solder up to the power switch for that. It would be pretty easy I think but while powering down only requires a quick tap of the power button, to power on you need to hold the power button down for a good second or two.

Any ideas?

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bbottomley

Can't do that. It runs on its internal battery, and connecting it to an external source just keeps that battery topped up. It turns on and off only with the switch, not with the application of power. I think the switch is tied into the software in order to implement the "long push for on" feature, which is intended to prevent accidentally turning it on while in your pocket.

The adapter draws current even when it's not connected to the TomTom, so you would have to connect it through the key to prevent running down the battery.

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toddlamp

What i'm wondering is if I can build something hardware wise that I would solder in place of the switch that would activate a "long push" when power is activated (something like a relay hooked up to a capacitor configured to discharge once). Then i'd have to figure out something that would also discharge in a similar fashion when external power is lost. I would still have it connected to the motorcycle battery to keep the internal battery topped off. The current draw during the "charging" period (ie when the bike is off) would be much less than if it was left on all the time. I imagine it would be similar to that of a head unit drawing small amounts of power to maintain radio stations and settings. I just need something that will initiate the long push when power is turned on and then another when power is turned off.

What I really wish was that there was something software wise that would automatically turn it on/off as external power fluctuates. I know that the TomTom 710 has a setting that will turn it off when external power is lost. Even that would work for me since I won't be using it on a daily basis, but when I do I want it to at least turn off when I turn off the bike.

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