Turbo Shafted!

nixxon · 06-29-2008, 09:25 AM

If you think that was stupid, try this for size...
Up bright and early, with the intention of fitting Forestier's old TD04 and, after much debate , my recently purchased H&S cat.
I stripped of the old coolant pipes and old oil gasket, and had a thought! Ding! Is the nut on the shaft tight enough? Some of you will guess the rest... tried to tighten it gently, and it came off, reverse thread... tightened it up again, and the shaft felt wobbly, with a bit of play it didn't have before... Tightened it a bit more, and Snap, the shafts busted! great start to the day! Anyonegot a spare shaft and nut sitting around? And a guide to dismantling TD04s, using words of one syllable or less?(preferably in colour)
Cheers, Nick
The irony is, I bought a 0-20 Nm torque wrench on E-bay yesterday...

NorthDownsScooby · 06-29-2008, 09:54 AM

Unlucky matey - did exactly the same thing to a nut yesterday while refitting one of the boot anchor points - over-screwed the head clean off !

stevem · 06-29-2008, 10:02 AM

Can't help with the nut, but I have a spare td04 you could have for cheap

The Rookie · 06-29-2008, 10:30 AM

If you dismantle it, when reassembled it will have to be balanced, for which you have to pay more than a used TD04 is worth, in other words your Td04 is now scrap!

Simon

nixxon · 06-29-2008, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rookie

If you dismantle it, when reassembled it will have to be balanced, for which you have to pay more than a used TD04 is worth, in other words your Td04 is now scrap!

Simon

Bo11ox!

The Rookie · 06-29-2008, 12:08 PM

You may find some buyers for the bits...eg someone who wants a housing machined to take a larger wheel etc....in fact I was thinking of trying a TD04/TF035 hybrid using a TD04 comp wheel and housing.....

don1952 · 06-30-2008, 04:54 AM

Should you wish to play about with it, the following is what I used for reference when I refurbed mine.

Stage Infinity » Mitsubishi TD04-13T Turbo Rebuild

Don

The Rookie · 06-30-2008, 06:25 AM

Which only works if using the same wheels so it doesn't need balancing, as he's bust the turbine wheel shaft, he can't...

Simon

don1952 · 06-30-2008, 07:14 AM

So what, all I said was

"Should you wish to play about with it"........................

The Rookie · 09-25-2008, 06:35 AM

Nick, how tight was your nut, can't undo the one on my old TF035 - despite much heaving this morning, soaking in WD40 as we speak!

Simon

nixxon · 09-25-2008, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rookie

Nick, how tight was your nut, can't undo the one on my old TF035 - despite much heaving this morning, soaking in WD40 as we speak!

Simon

You probably know that it's reverse thread?
Once I'd finished mangling it, it was so loose, it just came off in my hand, officer.
It can't be that tighht, it's onl y 8 or 10 mm

The Rookie · 09-26-2008, 12:04 AM

Yes, I was doing it in reverse as I should, a day of WD40 and it almost came off with fingers alone, I think it was the baked in carbon (now all over my hands) that was to blame!

Good news is the bearings are solid as a rock, and the TD04 compressor wheel is a straight fit on the shaft, however I will have to dismantle my CHRA to get it machined as the wheel sits in a recess in the front face which is only big enough for the current 50mm wheel!

Simon

06-29-2008, 09:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
nixxon Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: the house in the woods... Posts: 1,663 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Turbo Shafted! If you think that was stupid, try this for size... Up bright and early, with the intention of fitting Forestier's old TD04 and, after much debate , my recently purchased H&S cat. I stripped of the old coolant pipes and old oil gasket, and had a thought! Ding! Is the nut on the shaft tight enough? Some of you will guess the rest... tried to tighten it gently, and it came off, reverse thread... tightened it up again, and the shaft felt wobbly, with a bit of play it didn't have before... Tightened it a bit more, and Snap, the shafts busted! great start to the day! Anyonegot a spare shaft and nut sitting around? And a guide to dismantling TD04s, using words of one syllable or less?(preferably in colour) Cheers, Nick The irony is, I bought a 0-20 Nm torque wrench on E-bay yesterday... Last edited by nixxon : 06-29-2008 at 09:32 AM.

06-29-2008, 10:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
stevem Administrator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Surrey , UK Posts: 3,071 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Can't help with the nut, but I have a spare td04 you could have for cheap __________________ MY01 JDM S/tb VF35, decat, ecutek and other stuff

06-29-2008, 10:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
The Rookie Simply the best Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Warwickshire, UK Posts: 5,343 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 1 / 100%	If you dismantle it, when reassembled it will have to be balanced, for which you have to pay more than a used TD04 is worth, in other words your Td04 is now scrap! Simon __________________ 98 S-turbo, next mod decat D/P and hybrid turbo!

06-29-2008, 12:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
The Rookie Simply the best Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Warwickshire, UK Posts: 5,343 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 1 / 100%	You may find some buyers for the bits...eg someone who wants a housing machined to take a larger wheel etc....in fact I was thinking of trying a TD04/TF035 hybrid using a TD04 comp wheel and housing..... __________________ 98 S-turbo, next mod decat D/P and hybrid turbo!

06-30-2008, 04:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
don1952 Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Harpenden UK Posts: 357 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Should you wish to play about with it, the following is what I used for reference when I refurbed mine. Stage Infinity » Mitsubishi TD04-13T Turbo Rebuild Don __________________ MY03 2.0XT with a few more mods than B4..... 273/278

06-29-2008, 09:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
NorthDownsScooby Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kent/Surrey border. Black 06 FSTI Posts: 888 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Unlucky matey - did exactly the same thing to a nut yesterday while refitting one of the boot anchor points - over-screwed the head clean off !

06-30-2008, 06:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
The Rookie Simply the best Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Warwickshire, UK Posts: 5,343 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Which only works if using the same wheels so it doesn't need balancing, as he's bust the turbine wheel shaft, he can't... Simon __________________ 98 S-turbo, next mod decat D/P and hybrid turbo!

06-30-2008, 07:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
don1952 Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Harpenden UK Posts: 357 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 0 / 0%	So what, all I said was "Should you wish to play about with it"........................ __________________ MY03 2.0XT with a few more mods than B4..... 273/278

09-25-2008, 06:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
The Rookie Simply the best Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Warwickshire, UK Posts: 5,343 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Nick, how tight was your nut, can't undo the one on my old TF035 - despite much heaving this morning, soaking in WD40 as we speak! Simon __________________ 98 S-turbo, next mod decat D/P and hybrid turbo! Last edited by The Rookie : 09-25-2008 at 06:52 AM.

09-26-2008, 12:04 AM	#12 (permalink)
The Rookie Simply the best Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Warwickshire, UK Posts: 5,343 Gallery: 0 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Yes, I was doing it in reverse as I should, a day of WD40 and it almost came off with fingers alone, I think it was the baked in carbon (now all over my hands) that was to blame! Good news is the bearings are solid as a rock, and the TD04 compressor wheel is a straight fit on the shaft, however I will have to dismantle my CHRA to get it machined as the wheel sits in a recess in the front face which is only big enough for the current 50mm wheel! Simon __________________ 98 S-turbo, next mod decat D/P and hybrid turbo!

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